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Old 07-21-2007, 01:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

This one seems to be more than a mere rumor, and it's nothing new. The discussions for trading Mickael Pietrus to Miami have, however, picked up steam.

From today's Miami Sun-Sentinal:

Heat discusses deal for Pietrus
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(Pietrus' agent, Happy) Walters said a deal for Pietrus is complicated by the fact Pietrus is a restricted free agent. The Warriors extended Pietrus a one-year, $3.5 million tender, and can match any offer sheet Pietrus signs with another team.

Pietrus would have to negotiate a new, long-term deal before a trade unless the Heat is willing to risk losing Pietrus after one season. Further complicating the issue is the Heat is near the luxury-tax threshold, with any payroll above it taxed at 100 percent, and Golden State can afford to wait on making a decision on Pietrus.

Heat unrestricted free agent forward James Posey likely would be included as part of a trade with the Warriors. Golden State has been in talks with Posey and acquiring him in a sign-and-trade would allow the Warriors more flexibility in the contract it can offer, which is the main incentive for a sign-and-trade.
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

1. Does anyone believe that this trade could end up being a bit more complex than this? I don't know if Minnesota has interest in James Posey, but between coming to agreement on a deal for Pietrus and waiting for 1 month to pass before you can trade Wright, this seems to have potential as merely part of a 3-way deal (I have no reason other than a gut feeling / speculation for this).

2. Pietrus' agent's first name is Happy?
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

PG: Baron Davis...Monta Ellis... Sarunas Jasikevicius
SG: Stephen Jackson...Marco Belinelli...Kelenna Azubuike
SF: James Posey
PF: Al Harrington...Brandan Wright
C: Andris Biedrins...Adonal Foyle...Patrick O'Bryant

It's an OK team, but I don't think that replacing Richardson and Pietrus with Wright and Posey will get this team back to the playoffs. Why would the Warriors want Posey over Pietrus? Pietrus is already a better defender (or just as good), younger, and has more upside.
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

Because
A) maybe they don't want to pay him big money
B) Baron Davis, Monta Ellis, Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington and Andris Biedrins all see major minutes. Marco Belinelli is also a perfect player for their system. Brandan Wright should be seeing time too. I have a feeling they might just cheaply resign Matt Barnes to backup Jackson at sf, and start Ellis and Davis in the backcourt.
Basically, for the money he's probably wanting, there's no minutes for Pietrus.

Minnesota already have a younger version of Posey in Corey Brewer
Though I admit a wing-rotation of Posey, Davis, Hassell and Brewer is the best they've had in 3 or 4 years..
They could send one of their pg's to GS as well (though they're all overpriced and injury prone, or just plain crap)
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

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PG: Baron Davis...Monta Ellis... Sarunas Jasikevicius
SG: Stephen Jackson...Marco Belinelli...Kelenna Azubuike
SF: James Posey
PF: Al Harrington...Brandan Wright
C: Andris Biedrins...Adonal Foyle...Patrick O'Bryant

It's an OK team, but I don't think that replacing Richardson and Pietrus with Wright and Posey will get this team back to the playoffs. Why would the Warriors want Posey over Pietrus? Pietrus is already a better defender (or just as good), younger, and has more upside.
I can see why, they got young guys they want to see get some minutes. Stephen Jackson can play SF and give Monta and Marco good minutes off the bench.
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

The sensible move would be to send monta ellis packing,he`s far more valuable tradewise than pietrus,he was absolutly shocking in the playoffs and his departure would open more PT for bellini.

This team is not a contender this season and the management should be looking to build for the future,no point drafting a 2 guard just to sit him on the bench,if they could get Ron Artest(or a decent 5) and a couple of 08 draft picks then i`d bite there hands off

(I realise that ellis is a young player so in essence that is building for the future but bellini is much more of the lights out/spot up shooter that a point guard like baron needs than ellis)
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

I actually see Ellis as a young Baron Davis. He probably won't be as good, but I see him as a very similar player.
How good a playmaker was Baron at that age? (genuine question)

Ellis might be less of a disher, but he's still very valuable as a scorer off the bench.

I don't think they could get Artest and still have a competitive team (they'd have to give up too much, I think)
I say keep the team pretty much as it is (maybe deal Pietrus and resign Barnes, but no major moves..) and keep going. The playoff experience will be good for their young guys.
I think getting hold of some kind of young passing SF in this year's draft (or by trading Pietrus) would be a good move for the future. A Boris Diaw type guy rather than a Jerry Stackhouse type guy. Their team has plenty of scorers, and I realise that's their game, but a glue-guy would be better at this point than a scorer imo.
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

If they re-sign Matt Barnes, Pietrus being moved for Posey isn't a bad move. Pietrus is inconsistent. I would try to keep Pietrus for at least another year as my preference though.
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

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How good a playmaker was Baron at that age? (genuine question)
You saw what baron could do in the playoffs this year,2 acl tears and host of other injuries have robbed the nba of what i personally think could have been one of the best pg`s of all time

Baron has ALWAYS had the natural ability,magic johnson has said numerous times how highly he rates baron,he has the size,handles,speed,hops,passing,vision etc etc that sperates the great from the good

When he came into the league with charlotte he was playing on an appallingly bad team which required him to score 20 a game and get 8+ assists,many would have shirked the challenge...baron never
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

In that case I retract my statement.
'baron Davis without the vision' probably has a simpler version..
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

hmmm...I wouldn't mind James Posey in Golden State.

His got a Championship ring, can shoot, play solid defense and the Warriors need another veteran player to help our young core grow.

I really want to see how Baron and Jackson play now that J-rich is gone. They could both be 20+ppg this upcoming season.
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

Miami wants Pietrus, Pietrus wants Miami, and Posey wants Golden State.

I don't see why this wouldn't happen.
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Re: Rumor: Pietrus to Miami

i dont think pietrus for posey is a good deal,posey is not suited to an uptempo game,hes at the end of his career and really is nothing but a short term solution to share minutes at SF,if the warriors do that deal then i feel there getting 50 cents on the dollar regarding pietrus
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