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Old 07-24-2003, 08:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why I feel that the Warriors are planning something big

The stockpiling...
Who else in the league is stockpiling...
Thats right... the trademaster Jerry West...

Pretty much I feel that absolutly no one is safe on either team...

Also, the Mavs seem to want to be in on everything, so they're always in the mix, and may make this a 3 way deal.

Players that I think are gonna be talked around:
Troy Murphy
Mike Dunleavy
Michael Pietrus
Antawn Jamison
Raef LaFrentz
Lorenzen Wright
Stromile Swift
Michael Finley
Shawn Bradley
Michael Batiste
Wesley Person
Jason Williams
Shane Battier
Danny Fortson
Jason Richardson
and even Pau Gasol
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Old 07-25-2003, 12:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Warrior's management has provided hints about some "surprises" but of course they didn't mention any names. I think Jamison is gone.
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Old 07-25-2003, 12:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I doubt the W's would be able to unload Jamison and his bloated salary. I can see them trading away J-Rich, Foyle (I hope they don't), Dampier, and Fortson. Sura and Mills would make for good trade bait as well, since they both have ending contracts in 2004.
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Old 07-25-2003, 06:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Jamison is an above-average player and a real go-to guy.
Jason Richardson, on the other hand, seems like trade bait to me...
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Old 07-26-2003, 12:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Ugh... I know that this trade is really big... but it also makes sense, and I also spent a lot of time on it. Most likely it wouldnt happen ofcourse because its a friggin 18 player trade, but I think if another team was included, this would be the jist of it...

It's just to get an idea of where players may land


<b>Dallas trades:</b>
Evan Eschmeyer
Shawn Bradley
Tariq Abdul-Wahad
Nick Van Exel
Raef LaFrentz
<b>Dallas recieves:</b>
Erick Dampier
Chris Mills
Danny Fortson
Earl Watson
Lorenzen Wright
Ryan Humphrey

<b>Golden State trades:</b>
Erick Dampier
Chris Mills
Jiri Welsch
Troy Murphy
Bob Sura
Mike Dunleavy
Danny Fortson
<b>Golden State recieves:</b>
Evan Eschmeyer
Nick Van Exel
Raef LaFrentz
Shane Battier
Stromile Swift
Brevin Knight

<b>Memphis trades:</b>
Earl Watson
Lorenzen Wright
Shane Battier
Stromile Swift
Brevin Knight
Ryan Humphrey
<b>Memphis recieves:</b>
Shawn Bradley
Jiri Welsch
Troy Murphy
Bob Sura
Mike Dunleavy



Wow I salute you if you've gotten this far, and even somewhat appreciated my work... my calculator got a lot of use today.

Should I explain why each team should do it? Sure, but It's pretty self explainatory.

Why Dallas should do it:
Dampier, Fortson, and Wright make up for the loss of Eschmeyer, Bradley and LaFrentz, and give the team a better rebounding and defensive team. Humphrey is a filler and Mills' contract runs out after this season.

I say that that's a big improvement here

Why Golden State should do it:
Heh, now I gotta appeal to the home-crowd... Van Exel's game is similar to Arenas, and is arguably better, without a doubt could score 20+ points here (Jason Williams' contract can fit in here, but I thought Van Exel fit better). LaFrentz gives the Warriors their center and Swift makes up for the lack of a good tough player down-low. Battier will do whatever it takes to win and Knight is a solid defensive backup. Evan is mainly a scrub.

Big improvement on defense and the point guard position. Yes, you're losing two great players in Dunleavy and Murphy, but defense is what wins games, and now you finally have a center... Murphy isn't a center.

Why Memphis should do it:
They get a true center in Bradley, an excellent rebounder in Murphy. But the true reason why Memphis would do this trade is Dunleavy, West LOVES Dunleavy. Sura's contract runs out after this year. Welsch is a borderline starter

Okay, maybe this trade is unfair to Memphis... I dont need to explain why Memphis would do it.

Wow... i applaud the few who have made it this far.




I know... its unfair, its a longshot, but like I said before you read my little novel, it's just to get the jist of who's going where. I'll update this later, and make it more realistic.
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Old 07-26-2003, 01:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Okay narrowed it down to only 10 players now... getting more realistical:

<b>Dallas trades:</b>
Raef LaFrentz
Shawn Bradley
Antoine Rigaudeau
<b>Dallas recieves:</b>
Stromile Swift
Shane Battier
Danny Fortson

<b>Memphis trades:</b>
Jason Williams
Stromile Swift
Shane Battier
Ryan Humphrey
<b>Memphis recieves:</b>
Shawn Bradley
Antoine Rigaudeau
Chris Mills
Mike Dunleavy

<b>Golden State trades:</b>
Chris Mills
Danny Fortson
Mike Dunleavy
<b>Golden State recieves:</b>
Raef LaFrentz
Jason Williams
Ryan Humphrey

Dallas does it because: They get better defense and rebounding at the expense of lack of height. Battier can do anything, and is solid at doing it.

Memphis does it because: They get the player they've always wanted, Dunleavy, and get a true center also.

Golden State does it because: They get their center, and a pass-first point guard (Claxton does NOT pass at all), which overall helps the team because Golden State is full of scorers who need the ball like J-Rich, Jamison, and now LaFrentz.



Maybe its just me, but this trade seems very good and fair.
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I like the second trade.
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I was about to reach over the screen and choke you after reading the first trade, the second trade seems to be ALOT better.
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Old 07-26-2003, 09:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally posted by <b>SKLB54</b>!
Okay narrowed it down to only 10 players now... getting more realistical:

<b>Dallas trades:</b>
Raef LaFrentz
Shawn Bradley
Antoine Rigaudeau
<b>Dallas recieves:</b>
Stromile Swift
Shane Battier
Danny Fortson

<b>Memphis trades:</b>
Jason Williams
Stromile Swift
Shane Battier
Ryan Humphrey
<b>Memphis recieves:</b>
Shawn Bradley
Antoine Rigaudeau
Chris Mills
Mike Dunleavy

<b>Golden State trades:</b>
Chris Mills
Danny Fortson
Mike Dunleavy
<b>Golden State recieves:</b>
Raef LaFrentz
Jason Williams
Ryan Humphrey
I'd like Raef and especially the new and improved PG in Jason Williams.. but this would never happen. Maybe when unloading from GS, but c'mon.. Dallas and Memphis are giving up decent talent for pennies compared to GS.

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Old 07-26-2003, 09:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole. Williams and Lafrentz will be on the books for 6 more years at over a combined 110 million. If they had 2 year deals each? Maybe, or if they were reasonable amounts, maybe, but Memphis and Dallas sure as hell better be throwing in a bunch of first round picks if they think were going to pick up the tab on 110 million in marginal starters contracts while giving up Dunleavy on top of it.
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Old 07-26-2003, 10:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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uhh.. Jason Williams is not a "marginal" starter at all... .. He put up 8.3 assists on the 6th worst team in the league good for 2nd in the league.. also improved his turnovers and is 2nd in the league in assist-turnover ratio.. He is the most under rated pg in the NBA.. If you give Jason Williams Jrich,pietrus, jamison to run with and he would average 10 easily.. Memphis doesn't run as much as williams'd like to (not because of coaching style but simply because person, battier, gasol, and wright are not the most athletic players to run the floor with)


Memphis trades:
Jason Williams
Stromile Swift
Shane Battier
Ryan Humphrey
Memphis recieves:
Shawn Bradley
Antoine Rigaudeau
Chris Mills
Mike Dunleavy




That is SOOOOOOOO one sided it aint even funny..

Jason williams is better than anyone they get back including Mike Dunleavy, his potential notwithstanding. Stromile Swift would be among the best Centers in the east and is rapidly budding and breakingout.. Shane Battier is mr Everything and plays solid defense.. Also brings intangibles. Ryan Humprey hasnt shown much yet but will eventually presummably..

Memphis receives Shawn Bradley a defensive shot blocker and not much else.. Antoine Rigaudeau is not better than anyone Memphis is trading away. Chris Mills is not better than anyone other than Ryan Humprey. Mike Dunleavy is not better than battier, swift, or williams. Even if he reaches his potential this would still be extremely bad for Memphis.. Williams Contract is economical in comparison to mike bibby.. That was one of the reasons the grizz made the trade to get rid of Bibby (because Bibby would want a big contract - which he got and then proved it was unwarranted)..


That is not even remotely conceivable.. never know, though, with what West is doing these days ..

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