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Old 03-14-2006, 06:19 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Does JVG ever say anything positive??

promote ewing to head coach lol or bring back hakeem
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Old 03-14-2006, 10:16 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Does JVG ever say anything positive??

Sometimes after games Jeff can be a real dooshbag... Personally if I'm the VP or GM or Owner, and my team is losing all the time and not making the playoffs, I don't want my head coach on TV and Radio all the damn time moaning and groaning? Its like he takes NO RESPONSIBILITY for how the team did this year?
They NEVER should've given that idiot an extension on his contract? For what 2 1st rd knockouts in the playoffs w/ two totally different teams? The first being far more athletic and talented than the second. Rick Carlisle is a far better coach and had to deal w/ more than Jeff...take a page outta his manual Gumby!

I wish Tom Tibideau was the Head Coach. . . I really do think we'd be much better, w/ better players around our 2 stars...
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Old 03-14-2006, 10:47 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Does JVG ever say anything positive??

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They NEVER should've given that idiot an extension on his contract?
When is his contract extension up?
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Old 03-14-2006, 06:21 PM   #19 (permalink)
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When is his contract extension up?
Not til the 2008-09 season? That was just crazy to me, after that defeat by DAL in the playoffs? I really don't know what Les was thinking, to me w/ any coach you wait til the year the deal will be done, then let the guy show you he's a winner of some kind. To me Les rewarded our failure in the playoffs by extending JVG one more year? 3 years w/ good talent is long enough to decide if the dude is right for your franchise.
To me Paul Silas got a raw deal in CLE, one year w/ Lebron and he's gone...
Carlisle put together that DET team, and got them to 50wins, they fired him?
Rudy had one bad year wh/ in essence landed us Yao, they canned him? He deserved better 2 rings, nuff said.
IMO Jeff has always been highly overrated, even more so when he coached the Knicks, ie Pat Riley's Knicks. He just took over after Pat left that's all... he had Ewing, Spre, Allan Houston, Larry Johnson, Charlie Ward, Charles Oakley, Ch Smith, Anthony Mason, got dang??? I could take that team to the finals... are any of our role players as good as those guys, outside of Rafer, nope they're not...
He couldn't do anything w/ Rudy's roc's then put together his 'own guys' and can't do anything w/ them at all? I'm pretty much done w/ him as far as believing we will do any serious contending w/ him as our leader on the sidelines. I just don't see it. In bball, to me that's the dif in teams who win big and contend, and those who have 'alright teams' w/ great stars. That's what we are when healthy; an alright TEAM w/ great Stars? No chance of winning the big dance though, cuz the well rounded team can just outplay you at your other positions. Just my opinion though guys, don't shoot me...
I have no real faith that the org will make any moves in the offseason to get us into prominance? They stupidly believe that Yao/Mac are all you need and you can just put total scrubs around them? No, MJ and Pip needed Rodman/Paxson/Kerr/Kukoch/H.Grant around them to win. We need dudes like that, JHo and Stro ain't gonna get it. DWes/Head ain't gonna get it done in the Western Conf either frankly. You've got to get some real players in here soon, or you'll miss your prime chance. Look at the IND Colts, they're not title contenders anymore w/o Edgerrin James, they'll be good but not champs. This is not a slam on our role guys, but they've shown they can't take it to the next level, and when you want a TITLE you have a window, you've got to make the push while the window is open wide, not while its closing. Tracy and Yao may only have this MVP type play for maybe two or three years? You need to put the right team out there now, not when Tmac's ailing, it'll be too late then?
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Old 03-14-2006, 07:12 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Does JVG ever say anything positive??

Call it ironic, the guys who do go all out for the team gets criticized day in and out, even in wins, and yet



JVG FINDS TIME TO ALWAYS PRAISE THE SCRUB OF SCRUBS RYAN BOWEN. Its Pathetic.
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Re: Does JVG ever say anything positive??

http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2006/jh_ALL_PER.htm

This is the updated PER stats. Now, if you scroll down to the veeeeery bottom, you'll see who the guy with the worst PER is.
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:41 AM   #22 (permalink)
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http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2006/jh_ALL_PER.htm

This is the updated PER stats. Now, if you scroll down to the veeeeery bottom, you'll see who the guy with the worst PER is.

that's not for all active players is it?? Unreal!

edit: Okay I am confused.. how come not all the players are on that list?
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Re: Does JVG ever say anything positive??

Im sure Yao is used to being yelled at... from a authoratative...figure so I doubt that bothers him...

but I can guarantee that not every player reacts in the same way...

some you need to coddle... like a Stromile Swift...
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http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2006/jh_ALL_PER.htm

This is the updated PER stats. Now, if you scroll down to the veeeeery bottom, you'll see who the guy with the worst PER is.
According to Gumby, what Bowen brings to the table can't been seen from him stats. If they can measure a player's energy level on the court Bowen would be on top of the ranks, along with Mark Madsen.
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According to Gumby, what Bowen brings to the table can't been seen from him stats. If they can measure a player's energy level on the court Bowen would be on top of the ranks, along with Mark Madsen.

That's fine if what he does is hustle, but if you hustle then you are going to get steals or blocks or rebounds or something that a person can record... there has to be some sort of visible advantage to giving him minutes.

I agree that some players are more modivational than stat makers, but you have to draw the line when every time a guy enters the game your team loses momentum in the points column.
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