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Old 07-11-2007, 07:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Who do we cut?

PG - Rafer Alston/Mike James/Aaron Brooks/John Lucas
SG - Tracy McGrady/Luther Head/Kirk Snyder
SF - Shane Battier/Bonzi Wells/Steve Novak/Justin Reed
PF - Chuck Hayes/Carl Landry/Michael Harris
C - Yao Ming/Dikembe Mutombo/Jake Tsakalidis

Injured - Bob Sura

People Staying
Rafer Alston (Aw man)
Mike James
Aaron Brooks (Even if he gets buried on the bench)
Tracy McGrady
Luther Head
Kirk Snyder
Shane Battier
Bonzi Wells
Chuck Hayes
Yao Ming

That's 10. We're probably going to keep Mutombo and Landry

12

That leaves 3 more spots for

JL3, Steve Novak, Mike Harris, Justin Reed, Jake Tsakalidis and also Sura

Assuming that Big Jake won't be returning next year, I say we should cut JL3... Sura will be valuable so if we're going to keep him until the deadline... I'd say Mike Harris. If we keep him we will have 3 CHUCK HAYES ON OUR TEAM! O_O
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Who do we cut?

The cuts come at the end of training camp, so right now we shouldn't have to worry. And Mike Harris is signed to a non-guaranteed deal.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Who do we cut?

In a recent interview Adleman said he really isn't sure about Deke and what Deke wants to do. He doesn't think Deke will be with the team next year.

JLIII hasn't requested a trade but, he did say he wants to be somewhere he will get some PT this year. Obviously that will not be here. If we cut JLIII then we have to pay him the $770k for this season.

Man, I hope we have some sort of deal in place for a PF.
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Re: Who do we cut?

dont worry, free agent signings have only just started, we have a lot of work to do but we have a lot of time to do it. Lets just trust this houston management for now.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Who do we cut?

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If we keep him we will have 3 CHUCK HAYES ON OUR TEAM! O_O

I am sorry, but there is only one Chuck.. the others are only marginally "like Chuck"

I have really liked what I have seen of Harris though, so I would hope we can find a spot for him. Though I wanted Azubuike last year and we couldn't save space for him after the preseason. He would have been great in Adelman's proposed up tempo offense (as evidenced by what he can do in Golden States... but I digress).

someone is going to be packaged out... though at this point, its really hard to give any of the rotational players from last year up or to give up any of your potential rotational players this year... so where do you go from there.

-JL3 is minimal trade bait (if any at all)
-Sura's expiring contract may work as part of a deal for a team close to the luxury tax.
-Synder should do well in this system so we can't give him up.
-Luther earned his stripes and probably has the most trade value of any of our "releasable" players... but do you want to give up your fourth quarter specialist?
-Reed was someone that Houston wanted in the James trade, but I haven't heard a thing about the guy since then.. shouldn't he be playing in the summer league. Is he trade able? Would anyone even want him?
-Mutombo probably won't come back unless he is assured at least some playing time in the post season. He was really upset when JVG only gave him a few minutes a game against Utah.

I guess I am just saying I am glad its Morey's job to make wine out of water and not mine.

As long as the qualifying offer comes through for Chuck, I will be happy.
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Who do we cut?

Trades please do some trade.

Need to see some SF/SG/PG leaving for some PFs
Even trade them for next years draft picks.

Heard next years draft is stacked with quality PGs
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Who do we cut?

^ We're probably not close to OJ Mayo and Derrick Rose.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Who do we cut?

Sura has to go. He's taking up space. I haven't heard anything from Harris, Reed, or Tsakalidis. One of them will probably end up being traded.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Who do we cut?

John Lucas definitely for multiple reasons. One he's a midget. Two i think he smokes weed, which i dont approve of. Three he's a midget.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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hahahahahah ^
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i think we've given our 2nd round picks for the next 2 drafts away so possibly JL3 for a 2nd round pick just to clear roster space
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Who do we cut?

good grief.. and it just got more difficult to decide...

Okay... first the people you have returning...
  1. Rafer Alston
  2. Mike James
  3. Aaron Brooks
  4. Tracy McGrady
  5. Luther Head
  6. Kirk Snyder
  7. Shane Battier
  8. Bonzi Wells
  9. Chuck Hayes
  10. Yao Ming

The List then grows....
  1. Mike Harris (he's playing really well in the SL)
  2. Steve Novak
  3. Carl Landry (I think if they can he will spend time in the NBDL)
  4. Justin Reed
  5. Jackie Butler
  6. Luis Scola
  7. John Lucas
  8. Deke Mutumbo
  9. Sura (I think is going to retire - medically forced?)

I am seriously feeling stress right now!! LOL

Okay here's my prospective line up if Morey can keep from wheeling and dealing any more! LOL

C - Yao, Deke, Butler
PF - Chuckie, Scola, *Landry
SF - Battier, Harris, Snyder
SG - McGrady, Bonzi, Head
PG - James, Alston, *Brooks

So that leaves Novak, Reed, Lucas, and Sura with contracts on the floor.

*Possibly sent to NBDL... I know JVG thought players spending time in the NBDL was a waste, but it wasn't for Chuck, nor for Harris.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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good grief.. and it just got more difficult to decide...

Okay... first the people you have returning...
  1. Rafer Alston
  2. Mike James
  3. Aaron Brooks
  4. Tracy McGrady
  5. Luther Head
  6. Kirk Snyder
  7. Shane Battier
  8. Bonzi Wells
  9. Chuck Hayes
  10. Yao Ming

The List then grows....
  1. Mike Harris (he's playing really well in the SL)
  2. Steve Novak
  3. Carl Landry (I think if they can he will spend time in the NBDL)
  4. Justin Reed
  5. Jackie Butler
  6. Luis Scola
  7. John Lucas
  8. Deke Mutumbo
  9. Sura (I think is going to retire - medically forced?)

I am seriously feeling stress right now!! LOL

Okay here's my prospective line up if Morey can keep from wheeling and dealing any more! LOL

C - Yao, Deke, Butler
PF - Chuckie, Scola, *Landry
SF - Battier, Harris, Snyder
SG - McGrady, Bonzi, Head
PG - James, Alston, *Brooks

So that leaves Novak, Reed, Lucas, and Sura with contracts on the floor.

*Possibly sent to NBDL... I know JVG thought players spending time in the NBDL was a waste, but it wasn't for Chuck, nor for Harris.
Novak's contract is guaranteed. I don't think they cut him to keep Harris.

And Scola will probably be the starter, not Chuck (sorry)
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Who do we cut?

Yao/Mutombo/Butler
Scola/Hayes/Landry
Wells/Snyder/Novak
McGrady/Head
James/Alston/Brooks/Lucas

Trade the others. That includes Battier. Frankly we are too stacked at SF/SG we need to get rid of some Battier just happens to be the odd man out. If people really dont want to trade Shane then Luther must go.
Harris is talented but we are not losing Novak for him. Novak is on a guaranteed contract. Either that or Novak has to be traded. I dont mind if that happens but since he has such a sweet shot I would be disapointted to see him go.
Reed can only be traded after Aug 14th.
We need 4 PGs frankly we just arent strong enough there to not keep the depth available.
If Francis comes back for mimimum wage then trade Rafer or drop Lucas to NBDL.
But I want to trade for a high high pick in the next draft. So Battier or Luther must go. For a draft pick and cash considerations.
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