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**RollWithEm** · 06-25-2012, 10:30 AM

Where do you stand on the rift between Kevin McHale and Kyle Lowry?

Who would you consider the Rockets' core players at this time?

What would you do with the 14th and 16th picks?

What trades would you make?

If you are unable to find a trading partner for Samuel Dalembert, would you exercise your team option on him for $6.7 mil?

How would you handle Goran Dragic's unrestricted free agency?

What sort of offer sheet would you consider matching for Courtney Lee?

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm

**Floods** · 06-25-2012, 02:45 PM

Where do you stand on the rift between Kevin McHale and Kyle Lowry?

McHale's proven to be at least a decent coach, and Lowry doesn't have nearly enough clout to get coaches fired. If I have to pick one, I pick McHale.

Who would you consider the Rockets' core players at this time?

Aside from Lowry, there's no one on this team right now I'd go very far out of my way to keep. But Lowry's not important enough to fire a coach over either, so I don't know.

What would you do with the 14th and 16th picks?

Use one on whoever falls out of Waiters/Ross/Rivers, the other on Henson or Moultrie. Assuming I can't move them.

What trades would you make?

Trade whatever you need to for some bad team's 2013 first rounder. If that doesn't come to fruition, focus on this year instead. Before draft day, get #8 out of the Raptors for Lowry and whatever else you need to give up, within reason. Then flip 8, 14 or 16, and a player or two to move into the top five. Houston has enough middling prospects, take a risk and move up for a Barnes or Drummond.

Other than that, just sell guys off.

If you are unable to find a trading partner for Samuel Dalembert, would you exercise your team option on him for $6.7 mil?

No. Anything that makes you better leading up to the 2013 draft, you shed.

How would you handle Goran Dragic's unrestricted free agency?

I wouldn't offer much more than mid-level money.

What sort of offer sheet would you consider matching for Courtney Lee?

If he gets mid-level money, let him walk.

hroz · 06-26-2012, 06:38 AM

Where do you stand on the rift between Kevin McHale and Kyle Lowry?
I think Lowry will be traded. To the Raptors for their 8th pick. Maybe with Morris thrown in. Or Budinger. Or Patterson.

Who would you consider the Rockets' core players at this time?
Nobody

What would you do with the 14th and 16th picks?
I would look to move into the top 6. Those top 6 prospects excite me.
7 to 16 who knows who will go where. Your 7th pick might drop to 16.

What trades would you make?
I would look to trade Scola for an expiring and an early 20 pick or higher.
I would look to trade Martin for a top 12 pick. If GSW want a trade I would be down.
If we can make a run at Howard I would.
I would also package 14+16 for the 5th pick Maybe with Morris thrown in. Or Budinger. Or Patterson.

If you are unable to find a trading partner for Samuel Dalembert, would you exercise your team option on him for $6.7 mil?
No.

How would you handle Goran Dragic's unrestricted free agency?
I would offer him 7 million a year for 4 years.

What sort of offer sheet would you consider matching for Courtney Lee?
7 million a year for 4 years if we can get a DP for Martin. Otherwise I would only sign him for 5million a year or look for a sign and trade.

Pretty much I want this team

Drummond/Leonard
Sullinger/?????
Parsons/Jones
Lee/Budinger
Dragic/?????

With 5th pick/8th pick/another top 12/and a top 20 pick.
Drummond/Leonard/Jones/Sullinger(plummeting draft stock)

With a PF and PG.

**Ben** · 06-26-2012, 07:03 AM

This would help fix them:

Quote:

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
The Rockets own the 14th, 16th and 18th picks in Thursday's draft. They want to make an offer that Orlando can't refuse for Dwight Howard.

**RollWithEm** · 06-26-2012, 07:08 AM

Wait... Kevin Martin got traded to Minnesota?

**Bogg** · 06-26-2012, 07:12 AM

It certainly appears that way. Interesting.

EDIT: apparently it was Budinger. That's probably better, Martin makes way too much.

**RollWithEm** · 06-26-2012, 07:13 AM

Can we get confirmation? Was Derrick Williams in this deal?

**RollWithEm** · 06-26-2012, 07:21 AM

It wasn't Martin. It was Budinger: http://www.basketballforum.com/nba-f...ml#post6895432

**RollWithEm** · 06-26-2012, 07:21 AM

I love this play for the Rockets.

Spaceman Spiff · 06-26-2012, 10:09 AM

There was a weird deal I saw on a link for a few minutes before it got taken down. I can't remember the specifics, but the Rockets would get Dwight, Josh Smith, Turk, and Evans in the massive deal. Scola, Martin, Lowry, and several picks and future picks would been dealt along with other pieces and picks being swapped around from the Hawks and Kings.

**RollWithEm** · 06-29-2012, 05:28 AM

So the final Rockets draft haul was Jeremy Lamb, Royce White, and Terrence Jones. I guess that's not bad, but I wonder what deals are still in the works for this team. I don't think Daryl Morey is going to rest on his laurels now.

**Porn Player** · 06-29-2012, 07:29 AM

Talent wise, they secured an abundance. How this all fits in with the franchise, that's what I'm not so sure on.

**E.H. Munro** · 06-29-2012, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollWithEm

So the final Rockets draft haul was Jeremy Lamb, Royce White, and Terrence Jones. I guess that's not bad, but I wonder what deals are still in the works for this team. I don't think Daryl Morey is going to rest on his laurels now.

Lamb and White better be outbound as part of a deal for Howard or I may kill Morey myself. If he's holding everyone then the answer to the question is "Recruit a platoon of ninjas, arm them with machetes and flamethrowers, and send them after the front office."

OneBadLT123 · 06-29-2012, 09:23 AM

We have way too many forwards on this team. Some of them have to be on the move.

**E.H. Munro** · 06-30-2012, 12:46 PM

I think Darryl Morey has a secret equation that proves that the five PF offense is vastly undervalued and a good way of exploiting statistical inequities in the NBA.

06-25-2012, 10:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
RollWithEm Never Argue with a Fool Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 28,341 Rep Power: 6041729	How Would You Fix the Rockets? Where do you stand on the rift between Kevin McHale and Kyle Lowry? Who would you consider the Rockets' core players at this time? What would you do with the 14th and 16th picks? What trades would you make? If you are unable to find a trading partner for Samuel Dalembert, would you exercise your team option on him for $6.7 mil? How would you handle Goran Dragic's unrestricted free agency? What sort of offer sheet would you consider matching for Courtney Lee? http://hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm __________________ But that's just me. RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy) RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's) RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac 2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson

06-25-2012, 02:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Floods -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14,124 Rep Power: 15842309	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? Where do you stand on the rift between Kevin McHale and Kyle Lowry? McHale's proven to be at least a decent coach, and Lowry doesn't have nearly enough clout to get coaches fired. If I have to pick one, I pick McHale. Who would you consider the Rockets' core players at this time? Aside from Lowry, there's no one on this team right now I'd go very far out of my way to keep. But Lowry's not important enough to fire a coach over either, so I don't know. What would you do with the 14th and 16th picks? Use one on whoever falls out of Waiters/Ross/Rivers, the other on Henson or Moultrie. Assuming I can't move them. What trades would you make? Trade whatever you need to for some bad team's 2013 first rounder. If that doesn't come to fruition, focus on this year instead. Before draft day, get #8 out of the Raptors for Lowry and whatever else you need to give up, within reason. Then flip 8, 14 or 16, and a player or two to move into the top five. Houston has enough middling prospects, take a risk and move up for a Barnes or Drummond. Other than that, just sell guys off. If you are unable to find a trading partner for Samuel Dalembert, would you exercise your team option on him for $6.7 mil? No. Anything that makes you better leading up to the 2013 draft, you shed. How would you handle Goran Dragic's unrestricted free agency? I wouldn't offer much more than mid-level money. What sort of offer sheet would you consider matching for Courtney Lee? If he gets mid-level money, let him walk.

06-26-2012, 06:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
hroz All-Star Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,786 Rep Power: 1396404	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? Where do you stand on the rift between Kevin McHale and Kyle Lowry? I think Lowry will be traded. To the Raptors for their 8th pick. Maybe with Morris thrown in. Or Budinger. Or Patterson. Who would you consider the Rockets' core players at this time? Nobody What would you do with the 14th and 16th picks? I would look to move into the top 6. Those top 6 prospects excite me. 7 to 16 who knows who will go where. Your 7th pick might drop to 16. What trades would you make? I would look to trade Scola for an expiring and an early 20 pick or higher. I would look to trade Martin for a top 12 pick. If GSW want a trade I would be down. If we can make a run at Howard I would. I would also package 14+16 for the 5th pick Maybe with Morris thrown in. Or Budinger. Or Patterson. If you are unable to find a trading partner for Samuel Dalembert, would you exercise your team option on him for $6.7 mil? No. How would you handle Goran Dragic's unrestricted free agency? I would offer him 7 million a year for 4 years. What sort of offer sheet would you consider matching for Courtney Lee? 7 million a year for 4 years if we can get a DP for Martin. Otherwise I would only sign him for 5million a year or look for a sign and trade. Pretty much I want this team Drummond/Leonard Sullinger/????? Parsons/Jones Lee/Budinger Dragic/????? With 5th pick/8th pick/another top 12/and a top 20 pick. Drummond/Leonard/Jones/Sullinger(plummeting draft stock) With a PF and PG. __________________ ROCKETS NBA CHAMPIONS 1993-1994 1994-1995 2012-2013

06-26-2012, 07:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
RollWithEm Never Argue with a Fool Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 28,341 Rep Power: 6041729	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? Wait... Kevin Martin got traded to Minnesota? __________________ But that's just me. RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy) RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's) RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac 2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson

06-26-2012, 07:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bogg Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,617 Rep Power: 4050067	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? It certainly appears that way. Interesting. EDIT: apparently it was Budinger. That's probably better, Martin makes way too much.

06-26-2012, 07:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
RollWithEm Never Argue with a Fool Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 28,341 Rep Power: 6041729	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? Can we get confirmation? Was Derrick Williams in this deal? __________________ But that's just me. RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy) RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's) RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac 2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson

06-26-2012, 07:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
RollWithEm Never Argue with a Fool Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 28,341 Rep Power: 6041729	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? It wasn't Martin. It was Budinger: http://www.basketballforum.com/nba-f...ml#post6895432 __________________ But that's just me. RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy) RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's) RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac 2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson

06-26-2012, 07:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
RollWithEm Never Argue with a Fool Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 28,341 Rep Power: 6041729	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? I love this play for the Rockets. __________________ But that's just me. RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy) RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's) RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac 2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson

06-26-2012, 10:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Spaceman Spiff All-Star Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St. Croix Posts: 7,023 Rep Power: 6117734	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? There was a weird deal I saw on a link for a few minutes before it got taken down. I can't remember the specifics, but the Rockets would get Dwight, Josh Smith, Turk, and Evans in the massive deal. Scola, Martin, Lowry, and several picks and future picks would been dealt along with other pieces and picks being swapped around from the Hawks and Kings.

06-29-2012, 05:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
RollWithEm Never Argue with a Fool Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 28,341 Rep Power: 6041729	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? So the final Rockets draft haul was Jeremy Lamb, Royce White, and Terrence Jones. I guess that's not bad, but I wonder what deals are still in the works for this team. I don't think Daryl Morey is going to rest on his laurels now. __________________ But that's just me. RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy) RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's) RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac 2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson

06-29-2012, 07:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
Porn Player Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jolly Ingerland.. Age: 25 Posts: 26,069 Rep Power: 21474873	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? Talent wise, they secured an abundance. How this all fits in with the franchise, that's what I'm not so sure on. __________________ Last edited by Porn Player; 06-29-2012 at 08:06 AM.

06-29-2012, 09:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
OneBadLT123 Huh?? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston Age: 31 Posts: 11,564 Rep Power: 8605584	Re: How Would You Fix the Rockets? We have way too many forwards on this team. Some of them have to be on the move. __________________ ----------------- 44 Years of Tradition - Pregame Rockets Mix

06-30-2012, 12:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
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