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Old 05-20-2005, 05:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"There's a lot of work to be done," Carlisle said Friday after a brief team meeting. "There's going to be some changes. We're going to work to make the team better. Any success we had this year was great but we're really in this to win a championship and that should be everyone's goal. …
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To that end, Carlisle addressed a number of issues facing the team, among them:

* Ron Artest, who he said will be welcomed back with open arms;

* The likelihood of changes to the roster, although he wouldn't elaborate in detail;

* The need to fill Miller's void both as a team leader and as a clutch player
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"I think it's important that our fans understand we're not standing pat," Carlisle said. "We’re going to be proactive in trying to make the team better. There certainly are going to be a lot of possibilities as to how that can be done.

"It could go a lot of different ways. It's very early in the offseason process. Larry (Bird) and Donnie (Walsh) will be the decision-makers. But I wouldn't rule out anything."
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Does anyone have an idea on who we could be trading/trading for? The only real disappointments this year have been Bender and Croshere, but they will be hard to move.
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Old 05-21-2005, 08:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well I hope that we don't trade any of our core players, because I want them to all make a run together next year. Bender/Croshere...yeah, but we hear that every year. As far as who we trade for, right now I have no clue. I think any trade that we make may involve our draft pick. I just pray we don't trade any of our core players as I stated.
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Old 05-21-2005, 09:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You guys need a different point guard.....I'm sorry but I don't think tinsley can take you guys too the next level. he's sort-of one dimensional.

Thats the only person I'd trade.

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Hey, maybe you guys can pull off a miracle trade for Tony Parker. I was thinking since he's from France you guys will have better and more whine.


Now how can you say that was'nt kinda funny


Just because you put that little disclaimer there doesn't mean it isn't baiting. In fact it is just furthering the baiting by pointing out the mods and such. Stop trolling this forum.

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You guys need a different point guard.....I'm sorry but I don't think tinsley can take you guys too the next level. he's sort-of one dimensional.
Even if he can't play defense, I'll keep him since he has the best court vision and passing skills in the league next to Steve Nash and Jason Kidd.
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hmmm...Court Vision? No offence....but hes not even talked about in regards to court vision.

Nash
Kidd
Bibby
Jason Williams
Iverson
Tony Parker
Kirk Hinrich

What are.... (7) point guards having better court vision than Jamal Tinsley, Alex.
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hmmm...Court Vision? No offence....but hes not even talked about in regards to court vision.

Nash
Kidd
Bibby
Jason Williams
Iverson
Tony Parker
Kirk Hinrich

What are.... (7) point guards having better court vision than Jamal Tinsley, Alex.
Go watch a game before you make assumptions. Just because these players may get more media attention than Tinsley doesn't make them have better court vision. Tinsley makes some plays that I don't see from anyone else except Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, and Jason Williams a couple years ago. I didn't include Williams because the bad plays he makes are equivalent to or more than his good plays.
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hmm.....I've never seen em'. I think most experts would agree with me tho.
no big deal.

hey are any pacer fans down there questioning Jermaine's toughness.this is serious basketball question, no bs AT ALL. because a few in the national media and quite a few well-repected-basketball fan friends of mine have noticed vanishing acts by him.

just wondering if anyones questioning him. thats what happened here with grant hill.
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hmm.....I've never seen em'. I think most experts would agree with me tho.
no big deal.

hey are any pacer fans down there questioning Jermaine's toughness.this is serious basketball question, no bs AT ALL. because a few in the national media and quite a few well-repected-basketball fan friends of mine have noticed vanishing acts by him.

just wondering if anyones questioning him. thats what happened here with grant hill.
Considering he was playing in the playoffs with an injured right shoulder which he could have severely injured worse by playing when he shouldn't have been, nope I don't question his toughness at all.

And on a side note, any basketball 'expert' would know that jamaal tinsley's court vision skills are at a very high level, second only to his passing abilities.
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hmm.....I've never seen em'. I think most experts would agree with me tho.
no big deal.
Incorrect. Go ask these "experts" and see what they say.

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hey are any pacer fans down there questioning Jermaine's toughness.
If you're referring to the playoffs, his shoulder was badly injured, so he couldn't give his best performance. Remember, he did score 55 points in a game this year.

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this is serious basketball question, no bs AT ALL. because a few in the national media and quite a few well-repected-basketball fan friends of mine have noticed vanishing acts by him.
Yeah, he can be inconsistant at times. Most of the time he'll stay between the 12/5 - 25/10 range.
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I bet tinsley's not there next year....thats my gut shot.
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I dont buy the injuries....blah blah blah....do you have any idea how cortisone shots work. i guarantee he had one or more. and those shots are like miracles. seriously no pain after those.
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I bet tinsley's not there next year....thats my gut shot.
Tinsley and Artest are two players on our team that are just not replacable. They're not going to be moved.
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what trades would you make? what holes do you thinkl your team has
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I heard Larry has had thoughts about dealing Artest.......
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I dont buy the injuries....blah blah blah....do you have any idea how cortisone shots work. i guarantee he had one or more. and those shots are like miracles. seriously no pain after those.
Cortizone shots do not get rid of any of the risk of furthering an injury, which was a very real possibility for JO. These type of shoulder injuries take a long time to heal, and if not done correctly, they can ruin a players career. But this is not a thread about JO's shoulder, so let's try to keep the conversation focused on trade discussions.
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