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Old 06-07-2002, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Pacers should have never traded Rose

Look at the Pacers, At shooting guard they have Reggie Miller, at point guard they have a potentially great Point guard that has already broken the Pacers record for assists in a game. At power forward they have Jermaine Oneal, the most improved player of 2002. Think of it, how much better would they be with Jalen Rose still there? He can score, he can pass, he can rebound. He had the record for assists by a Pacer before Tinsly broke it.

Look at how their lineup would look:

PG: Jamaal Tinsly
SG: Jalen Rose
SF: Reggie Miller
PF: Jermain Oneal
C: Brad Miller

Plus if they drafted Kareem Rush, when Miller retires they could go even smaller and have a very nice lineup:

PG: Jamaal Tinsly
SG: Kareem Rush
SF: Jalen Rose
PF: Jermain Oneal
C: Brad Miller

You may disagree with me, but I think the Pacers would be much better off if they hadn't traded Jalen Rose.
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Old 06-07-2002, 03:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The Pacers did the right thing by trading Jalen Rose. He did not like the fact that Al Harrington was taking his minutes and he did not play defense.

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Old 06-07-2002, 05:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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As great an offensive threat Rose is, his defence was a liability for the Pacers and they just lost patience. I think that trade will take some time to show it's benefits in full for Indiana
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Well, in time, they may not have much to show for the trade. I highly doubt that Ollie sticks around long term. Artest looks like the odd man out with Bender, Harrington and Miller all looking to resign pretty soon. They are stuck with the bad contracts of Mercer and Croshere, which are going to be hard to move. Jermaine O'Neal is going to be looking for the Max, which also leaves questions about how much they can pay Brad Miller.

So in the end, this trade could turn out to be J.Rose for Brad Miller.... (or whichever player they decide to keep)
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Well, if he isn't dealt on draft day, you may be able to get Andre Miller with that package.......
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KidCraw, alot of those questions about contracts will be answered on August 1st, which is the date when negotiations will begin on extensions for Artest and Bender (also, Foster).

I would really like to see us deal Artest and Bender and Tinsley for a REALLY, REALLY good PG.
Thats an awful lot of quality to give up! Bender? Didnt you trade Dale Davis to get bender? I dont see Indy trading him. But if they put him on the block im sure alot of teams would be intersted.

Who do you have in mind as a very good pg?
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My very good point guard is Baron Davis, there are others, but he's the youngest.

Oh, and the trade where we shipped Dale out was in return for Jermaine O'Neal.

Bender was the #5 overall pick in the 1999 draft.
Sorry i meant antonio!! my mistake~
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It was Antonio Davis that got you Bender....


Anyways, I can't see the Hornets doing that trade. Two of those players are FA's soon and the Hornets don't like to sign their own guys. So then it turns into Tinsley for Baron. They will have better offers......
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So you're trading Brad Miller to?
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I don't see why the Hornets would do that though. That gives them 3 soon-ending contracts and 1 good young PG...
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pacers wont trade Brad. That allows them to put oneal at pf. Brad is not a star but he is solid at the center spot. Tinsley will be ok. Just dont expect nothing too drastic, imo
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I don't think that Baron Davis will be traded. An Andre Miller deal may be the most realistic.
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and a lotta wins, maybe mid 50's (55, or so) playing out East.
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Know your info!!!

Brad Miller was part of the Jalen Rose deal. He wouldn't be there if they hadn't traded Rose. And you have him in the starting lineup as the center.
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Brad Miller was part of the Jalen Rose deal. He wouldn't be there if they hadn't traded Rose. And you have him in the starting lineup as the center.
I was just going to say that.

This doesn't look very bad though.

C. O'Neal
PF. Harrington
SF. Rose
SG. Miller
PG. Tinsley

Is Harrington as PF pushing it? I am not too sure.
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