[PacersorBust]

The last thing this team needs is another ballhog or troublemaker. I'm not saying he is a bad player (he's a great player), but we just don't need a Stephon Marbury type player on the Pacers. I want to see Granger develop into a star and Dunleavy keep playing like he was supposed to when drafted by GSW, not have them both watch OJ Mayo take the ball down the court and play 1 on 5 basketball. He's going to be a great player, but the Pacers don't need him.

[PaCeRhOLiC]

Originally Posted by PacersorBust

The last thing this team needs is another ballhog or troublemaker. I'm not saying he is a bad player (he's a great player), but we just don't need a Stephon Marbury type player on the Pacers. I want to see Granger develop into a star and Dunleavy keep playing like he was supposed to when drafted by GSW, not have them both watch OJ Mayo take the ball down the court and play 1 on 5 basketball. He's going to be a great player, but the Pacers don't need him.

We don't need another Granger...No disrespect to him because he's a decent player, but we need a big time name here in the worst way, we need someone who can remind people we still have a team, we need a household name again, plain and simple we need a star again, and if that just happens to be we gamble on Mayo than I say we do everything we have to do to make this happen. We know for sure JO is the not the answer, and everyone else are just overpaid role players. Look at what Paul has done for NO, I'm not trying to compare the two, but that exactly the kind of impact this team needs. Personally I'm all for drafting Mayo.

[clownskull]

i'm ok with either a pg or a center. we could use a guy who can protect the rim. i doubt mayo is around when we pick. i just hope we don't draft gordon. he isn't ready and he doesn't fill a role this team is really needing anyway.

[clownskull]

i'm ok with either a pg or a center. we could use a guy who can protect the rim. i doubt mayo is around when we pick. i just hope we don't draft gordon. he isn't ready and he doesn't fill a role this team is really needing anyway.

[Pacers Fan]

Originally Posted by clownskull

i'm ok with either a pg or a center. we could use a guy who can protect the rim. i doubt mayo is around when we pick. i just hope we don't draft gordon. he isn't ready and he doesn't fill a role this team is really needing anyway.

Gordon would be stupid to declare this year after the terrible tournament and last part of the season he had. Don't worry about it.

[DienerTime]

I'm sorry but why are we hoping for a PG? DJ Augustin is a bust and will not be better than Diener, one reason is he is even shorter than Diener and I'm just not sold. All the PGs are undersized around our draft position so I believe we should focus on PF or C this draft, and see what Diener develops into before we decide he isn't a starter. (and yes he is better than Murray, our coach is just stupid for starting him over Diener)

[Pacers Fan]

Originally Posted by DienerTime

I'm sorry but why are we hoping for a PG? DJ Augustin is a bust and will not be better than Diener, one reason is he is even shorter than Diener and I'm just not sold.

He's an inch shorter than Diener and weighs 5 pounds more. That isn't much difference. People criticized TJ Ford's height just the same, and he turned out fine. You never gave a reason besides height.

All the PGs are undersized around our draft position

They might be short, but Ty Lawson and DJ Augustin are both strong, and Collison's extremely fast and has the athleticism to allow him to play larger than his height.

so I believe we should focus on PF or C this draft

Easier said than done. Do you really want Brook Lopez, Blake Griffin, or Roy Hibbert over any of the three above? Even DeAndre Jordan doesn't look very promising.

and see what Diener develops into before we decide he isn't a starter.

He's a third stringer on a decent team with healthy PG's. Unfortunately for us, he's the only actual PG on this roster. Yes, he's been a starter for a while, but when someone of his caliber is playing big minutes, you always want to upgrade, just the same as we should draft guys to get minutes over Murphy and Foster.

(and yes he is better than Murray, our coach is just stupid for starting him over Diener)

At least Murray can hit a shot witin 12 feet.

[Knick_Killer31]

Originally Posted by DienerTime

I'm sorry but why are we hoping for a PG? DJ Augustin is a bust and will not be better than Diener, one reason is he is even shorter than Diener and I'm just not sold. All the PGs are undersized around our draft position so I believe we should focus on PF or C this draft, and see what Diener develops into before we decide he isn't a starter. (and yes he is better than Murray, our coach is just stupid for starting him over Diener)

I know you got a little crush on Travis Diener but like PF said, he is a third string point guard on a good team. There is just no chance Travis Diener being considered a full-time starter in this league. Personally, I wouldnt even want him as a backup. That's just my opinion.

[bball2223]

Originally Posted by DienerTime

I'm sorry but why are we hoping for a PG? DJ Augustin is a bust and will not be better than Diener, one reason is he is even shorter than Diener and I'm just not sold. All the PGs are undersized around our draft position so I believe we should focus on PF or C this draft, and see what Diener develops into before we decide he isn't a starter. (and yes he is better than Murray, our coach is just stupid for starting him over Diener)

LOL how is he a bust? Diener was a good college player in C-USA but is a below average NBA player.

[Jones2011]

Originally Posted by Knick_Killer31

I know you got a little crush on Travis Diener but like PF said, he is a third string point guard on a good team. There is just no chance Travis Diener being considered a full-time starter in this league. Personally, I wouldnt even want him as a backup. That's just my opinion.

Agreed. Diener's just a pretty boy who jacks threes. Not once have I seen him live up to the hype that are constantly talking about, DT.

I personally like Kevin Love, but I really want someone stronger on our team.
I have no idea who to pick.

[PacersorBust]

Originally Posted by DienerTime

I'm sorry but why are we hoping for a PG? DJ Augustin is a bust and will not be better than Diener, one reason is he is even shorter than Diener and I'm just not sold. All the PGs are undersized around our draft position so I believe we should focus on PF or C this draft, and see what Diener develops into before we decide he isn't a starter. (and yes he is better than Murray, our coach is just stupid for starting him over Diener)

We are hoping for a PG because:

a) Tinsley and 'Quis Daniels will most likely not be in a Pacer uniform next year
b) I don't see Bird re-signing Murray
c) Diener is a backup, not a full-time starter

We have never had a set PG player on this team since Tinsley is always out, and we need to fix that 1st before we settle the PF/C position (if Jermaine proves he is indeed healthy). Thats why Augustin is a perfect fit for this team. Sure he may be only 5'9, but this team needs a PG to run the team. Augustin-Granger-Dunleavy-O'Neal-Foster next year is nice to me.