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04-20-2008, 06:35 PM
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Re: We screwed ourselves
I agree tanking is low, but it isnt as low as our talent level.
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04-21-2008, 03:31 AM
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Re: We screwed ourselves
Our talent level really isn't THAT low, this team certainly has some potential with a tweak here and there. If we had a healthy Jermaine all year, this would have been a different story. Once we solidify that situation, as well as the PG situation, this team looks a heck of a lot better.
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04-21-2008, 12:21 PM
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Re: We screwed ourselves
We need some defense. We need a reliable big man. We need a reliable PG.
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04-21-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: We screwed ourselves
What if larry forefeited our pick? My God there would be a huge riot outside of Conseco Fieldhouse. Just some thought lol.
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04-22-2008, 12:16 AM
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Re: We screwed ourselves
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Originally Posted by PacersorBust
What if larry forefeited our pick? My God there would be a huge riot outside of Conseco Fieldhouse. Just some thought lol.
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For Steve Nash or Chris Paul or somebody
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04-22-2008, 02:58 AM
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Re: We screwed ourselves
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Originally Posted by StephenJackson
If we had a healthy Jermaine all year, this would have been a different story. Once we solidify that situation, as well as the PG situation, this team looks a heck of a lot better.
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How long have we been waiting for that to happen though Jax...
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04-22-2008, 05:35 AM
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Re: We screwed ourselves
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ALOT? Are you kidding me? The only 'extremely tradable assets' anybody would want from us would be Granger, Dunleavy, Foster, and Diener. Everybody else on the team has little to no trade value...which includes O'Neal, Tinsel, D. Harrison, Diogu, M. Daniels, and Troy Murphy.
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Uh there's no way J.O has less trade value than Diener. What exactly is so good about Diener? His shooting? Passing?
J.O maybe old and injury prone but he's still the biggest proven force on the team.
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04-22-2008, 06:41 AM
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Uh there's no way J.O has less trade value than Diener. What exactly is so good about Diener? His shooting? Passing?
J.O maybe old and injury prone but he's still the biggest proven force on the team.
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Diener lives up to if not outplays his contract, JO does not. Diener is also healthy, JO is not. We're not saying Diener could get more in a trade than JO, we're saying more teams would want Diener than JO because right now JO is a gigantic risk for any team to take on.
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04-22-2008, 03:05 PM
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We're not saying Diener could get more in a trade than JO, we're saying more teams would want Diener than JO because right now JO is a gigantic risk for any team to take on.
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I'm not saying that. I'm pretty sure more teams would be interested in JO than Diener. Risk or no risk.
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04-22-2008, 03:48 PM
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Re: We screwed ourselves
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I'm not saying that. I'm pretty sure more teams would be interested in JO than Diener. Risk or no risk.
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I totally agree.
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04-25-2008, 03:43 PM
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Re: We screwed ourselves
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I'm not saying that. I'm pretty sure more teams would be interested in JO than Diener. Risk or no risk.
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It depends on how you mean that. Because of Diener's much lower contract, he's just more attractive and easier to move. Of course, if a team could pick one, they'd pick JO.
But because of his contract and injuries, nobody really wants to touch him right now.
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04-25-2008, 09:35 PM
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Re: We screwed ourselves
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No, i mean forefeiting as in not picking at all.
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