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#1 ·
Since there isn't always gamedays, I thought I'd make this thread so we have a place we can talk about the games if there isn't another thread to post in.

Anyone see last nights game? I missed it. First thing to that popped out at me when I looked at the box score is it looks like the combo of Hibbert, West and Hansbrough are still rebounding amazingly well. Only 3 games in but a nice sign so far.

Rough night for George going 0-4. He get locked down, or just have a bad game?
 
#379 ·
George really frustrated me at times this series. He's only in his second year so I can't be too hard on him but your right R-Star. We got a solid group of guys right now but we are still missing an important piece. If we re-sign Hibbert and Hill, will we have any cap room left over to sign someone like Gordon or Nash?
 
#380 ·
That's what I'm not sure about. Gordons going to want around 15 mil, I assume we won't have the money for that. I'd love Nash to for some reason take a discount, but its not going to happen.

Maxing out Hibbert is going to hurt, but we don't have much choice.
 
#382 ·
http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.com/2012/05/and-thats-it/

Seasons end, and for all but one playoff team each year, they end with a loss. Tonight, it was the Pacers’ turn.

While there were many things the Pacers could have done better, and many opportunities they missed, the basic reality is that the Heat were just better. Specifically, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade were just better. For Miami to win this series, those two players had to deliver nothing short of greatness.

And deliver it they did.

The bastards.

I was in the Pacer locker room after the game. It was a subdued, quiet place. George Hill sat leaning back in his chair looking at the ceiling. Paul George was hunched over, chin in hand, engaged in his normal postgame ritual of reading the stat sheet. Danny Granger sat patiently, but quietly answering questions for a procession of reporters – each waiting on queue to ask him the same thing in a slightly different way.

Then there was David West.

West was scheduled to be the Pacer player coming to the table in the interview room, so he wasn’t – strictly speaking – available for questions in the locker room. As people moved around him, West was million miles away. Or, more accurately, he was a few hundred feet away and in a different time. In his thousand yard stare, you could almost see the flicker as he replayed the game in his mind. Each missed shot. Each turnover. Every Dwyane Wade bucket – each one more ridiculous than the last.

Later, he would talk about the game in hushed, thoughtful tones. He would talk about the future, and this as a good learning experience for the younger guys, and the fact that the Pacers need to dedicate themselves to getting past this point next season. He would sum it up by saying, “It just wasn’t our time,” but not without betraying his underlying belief that it could have, perhaps even should have been.

But, sitting in the locker room, he was just a man trying to get a hold of his pain and disappointment. In that way, and in that moment, David West was exactly like many, many Pacer fans. He was like me.

For as much as tonight hurts, I can’t help but smile. It has been a very long time since the end of the Pacer season arrived with regret, instead of relief. It is a familiar pain…a welcome pain. It’s the kind of pain you can only feel when your team matters to you again.

I wandered around the locker room, picking up snippets of audio from different players, but nothing extensive. I had plenty of opportunities to ask questions, but none came to me. So, I drifted around, hoping for some divine inspiration, until I noticed that Pacer P.R. Director David Benner had briefly abandoned his guard post around West.

After glancing around, I slipped over to West’s locker, and told him I had no questions. I only wanted to thank him for how helpful he’d been to me as a writer during my first season with credentials, and how much I’d enjoyed watching him play.

How much I’d enjoyed watching them play.

The analysis of what happened, and where Indiana goes from here will come in due time with due diligence. It is not coming tonight.

Tonight, I only have the pain that feels like a long lost old friend. And while that makes me sad, it also makes me happy … if that makes any sense at all.
 
#387 ·
whether green or george is the better dunker- i don't really care. as long as both can help the team win more games and get us closer to a championship is what gets me thinking.
and i think getting green is going to help us from the bench big time.
when he first came into the league, he was little more than a highlight kind of guy. he has since developed an actual game and can score for us since it was really our bench that struggled in the playoffs.
getting a guy with true center size like mahinmi who can also help at the 4 spot and give us a twin tower lineup with big roy for some tough interior defense will be nice too.
we have made some needed improvements in regards to our bench and that is nice to see.
 
#390 ·
I'm still going to miss Collison a lot, but I have to agree.

I used to lose my mind whenever they'd sub in Amundson and Hansbrough together. It happened all the time in the playoffs and you could just watch our lead turn into a deficit every time.


****ing Vogel.
 
#396 ·
**** you guys, I'm going to really miss Loooooou!

But in all seriousness, Mahinmi is one of the most underrated acquisitions this offseason. We desperately needed a true backup center. And personally, I had no problem losing Collison. Loved that he was a UCLA guy, but he gave me a lot of headaches.
 
#397 ·
what bugged me most about vogel and the substitution patterns was how he would rest all the starters and go all bench. our starters actually outscored miami's. it was when the all-bench lineup came in where we would see our 9-12 point leads quickly disappear and in like 4 minutes that lead was now a deficit.
thing is- he didn't seem to figure this out. he kept trying this routine even though it was quickly proven not to work well. hopefully he made note of mistakes like that and we ease the rotations more gradually this time.
 
#398 ·
Mike Wells ‏@MikeWellsNBA
I'm not sold Granger will play the entire season after this quote “(The knee) is testing me." (Cont)

Mike Wells ‏@MikeWellsNBA
More Granger: "They’re telling me the pain can’t do anything else to my knee. I’m going to have to play through the pain, but it hurts.”
I like Granger, but it's looking like we probably should have gotten rid of him at some time. Sounds like its an injury that won't go away with rest..... Now we're stuck with a #1 option with a bum knee.
 
#400 ·
Agreed. I don't think we would have ever got anything that would have been more than a lateral move for us.

Realistically we would have needed to trade him for 3 or a 2 and move George to the 3. Either way no ones giving up a step up from Granger in that deal.
 
#402 ·
Yeh, but it seems like Ben is going to spending most of his time in Fort Wayne when George Hill is healthy. I definitely don't mind having Ben on the roster. It should keep Tyler in good spirits, and Ben had a solid game in the preseason. I might've rather had Sundiata Gaines, but I'm glad we're at least keeping a 15th player.
 
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