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Old 11-14-2012, 03:37 PM   #511 (permalink)
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I read over on PD that he was crying on the bench. I don't believe it though.
We should be the ones crying after that contract we gave him.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:15 PM   #512 (permalink)
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I've got no faith in this team. Wouldn't be surprised if we suffer another loss tonight. Bucks always give us trouble in the Bradley Center, too. Scott Skiles has our number.
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I've got no faith in this team. Wouldn't be surprised if we suffer another loss tonight. Bucks always give us trouble in the Bradley Center, too. Scott Skiles has our number.
This Bucks team is going to give damn near every team in the league trouble...with the speed of our backcourt and the length of our frontcourt we are kind of an oddball squad that presents weird matchup problems..should be a good game tonight though
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You would think that when they have Dunleavy in the game we'd be exploiting him, but nope, more passing around the perimeter.
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Down 27 in the 3rd.


Vogel's not going to survive the season. Danny Grangers our best player, but theres no way we should be this bad without him. I didn't expect us to be a contender with DG injured, but we're playing the worst basketball I've seen in years.
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If one person defends Lance Stephenson and calls him a bright spot after tonight, I'll fly there and punch them in the ****ing mouth.



Is this enough to see Lance is absolute junk?


And maybe, just maybe Collison wasn't junk like everyone kept arguing with me.



Apologies for being a dick. This team makes me very angry right now.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:27 PM   #517 (permalink)
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Just like we all said Vogel was the greatest after he took us to the playoffs his first half year?

Now everyone wants his head?
Not entirely. Everyone knew Vogel would be on a short leash. To be honest I was shocked we didn't find another coach. Vogel was a video coordinator turned assistant, and I didn't even know he had been our lead assistant until we gave him the job. After the honeymoon era post-JOB, I thought he'd done enough to give himself another year. We gave him two. That might've been one too many.

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Sorry, I'm not willing to just assume someone with no head coach experience is going to do better.
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Our best +/- lineup is Hill-Stephenson-George-West-Hibbert. I'd argue he has the best +/- of anyone on the team if I could find the statistic.
He was +14 when I looked earlier today. After tonight he's at +4. But two games ago he was +40 or so. All these losses aren't doing well for the +/- of the rest of the team, though.

Looks like Lance had a poor night tonight, but from the statline, it looks like our best guys were Hansbrough, Green, and Sam Young, so I think we should throw this one out the window. Hibbert took 6 shots and Hill was 1/10. This whole team is out of sync.

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And maybe, just maybe Collison wasn't junk like everyone kept arguing with me.
Collison's looking good in Dallas, but that's because Rick Carlisle isn't running the same offense he ran in Indy. Indiana has been the place PG's go to die ever since we fired Isiah Thomas, and that's because of the chain of command. We've essentially been running different forms of the same exhausted offense for a decade now, passed down from Larry Bird's ancient ways to Carlisle to O'Brien to Vogel. At least Brian Shaw would be a little different.

Just look at our history. PG hasn't been an advantageous position for us since Larry Brown, except for Jamaal Tinsley's rookie season. Every PG plays better before they come here and after they leave. It's the way we run our offense. George Hill is actually the perfect PG for the style we've been running forever.
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Collison would be having a poor year on this team in this offense plain and simple. NOLA had a system better suited for Collison and so does Dallas. Chalk it up to a bad coach folks. It's still JOB ball, the offense (at least offensive output) seriously looks a lot like O'Brien's right before he got fired. The games aren't even entertaining to watch anymore, I've actually put schoolwork over them, I'd rather do something productive. Why waste 2 hours of my time? I'm starting to think that Danny couldn't help this team.

We have the players, but the wrong system. These guys don't fit in this bullshit we call an offense at all.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:49 PM   #519 (permalink)
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You would think that when they have Dunleavy in the game we'd be exploiting him, but nope, more passing around the perimeter.
yep- the fact that when one of the worst defenders in the game is out there and you don't attack him every time is not good. i knew having no granger would be tough but- this is ridiculous. unless they get things together and quick- there aren't going to be any playoffs for the pacers. they are playing some of the worst basketball in the league right now.
i expect collison to torch us friday.
in fact, i looked at the rest of november's schedule and there are several games where even if our opponents take us lightly, we will likely lose.
i see 3 possible wins remaining this month. at washington on the 19th, home against the hornets and the 30th against the kings.
i know the lakers have struggled but it is in l.a. and if they are going to have a bad game and win, they are still likely to beat a dysfunctional pacer squad. by the time danny gets back (IF he gets back this year) it may be too late to even matter considering it will be a month before he is in playing shape again.
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At least I got the Hoosiers to be excited about.
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I'm to the point where I'm apprehensive about today's game. Not even excited.


I hope to hell we're just starting the year off cold.
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Fans are fickle. Everybody on here loved Vogel and all of a sudden after less than ten games he's the most hated man in Indiana? Keep in mind it's been less than ten games without his best player. I never thought he was that great, but he's certainly not the only reason why the Pacers are struggling right now.
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Fans are fickle. Everybody on here loved Vogel and all of a sudden after less than ten games he's the most hated man in Indiana? Keep in mind it's been less than ten games without his best player. I never thought he was that great, but he's certainly not the only reason why the Pacers are struggling right now.
I never said he was. Since last years playoffs I've been saying I don't like Vogels set minute rotations he uses no matter what. If you're hot, you're still being yanked out when his stop watch hits. If you're cold, you're still staying in until the stop watch hits.

I've also been one of the guys saying I don't want him fired just yet.


As a Laker fan, please don't try coming in here pulling some all and might bullshit when we've seen you guys chicken little since the start of the season.
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Are we ok benching Hibbert at some point, or are we just supposed to sit back and wait for him to decide he wants to put some effort in.


Hes not even trying out there. Somethings off mentally.
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