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**Jace** · 12-17-2012, 02:30 AM

Houston could be up there if they actually developed their guys, at least their current stock.

**Gonzo** · 12-17-2012, 12:43 PM

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/280761110863437824

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Just Announced: @Paul_George24 (23.3ppg, 7rpg, 4.3apg) of @Pacers & @Dlee042 (22.8ppg, 12.5rpg) of @Warriors named NBA Players of the Week.

**Gonzo** · 12-17-2012, 01:01 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nba/1731/paul-george

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Paul George attributes his recent success to game-day workouts that include 300 to 400 extra shots and a full-body workout before tip-off.

Associate head coach Brian Shaw had been trying to get George to buy into the same game-day routine as Kobe Bryant, who Shaw played with and coached in L.A. The approach has worked like gangbusters, with George averaging 21.4 points, seven rebounds, 3.6 assists, 1.1 steals and a block per game in the month of December. Owners who held on to George despite a frustrating two months are being handsomely rewarded for their patience.
Source: Indianapolis Star Dec 15 - 11:30 AM

**Jace** · 12-17-2012, 03:23 PM

Paul George is better than Jeremy Lin.

**Knick Killer** · 12-17-2012, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

Paul George is better than Jeremy Lin.

Thanks captain obvious.

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**Jace** · 12-18-2012, 12:06 AM

There are people who would debate that.

**Gonzo** · 12-18-2012, 08:13 AM

http://sulia.com/channel/basketball/...source=twitter

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The Thunder explored dealing James Harden to the Wizards for Bradley Beal and Chris Singleton. They also talked to the Warriors and Pacers, a league source says. If you're a Pacers' fan, would you have given up Paul George for Harden? If you were a Warriors' fan, would you have given up Steph Curry? Of course you would have. Now, what if you had to deal those guys without knowing if you could re-sign and keep Harden? Changes the equation just a little bit. Ultimately, the league source says it wasn't up to the Wizards, Pacers or Warriors to make the deal. The Thunder sent Harden to the Rockets because it brought back the best collection of assets.

Coming in to the season and after a few bad games from PG I'm sure some of us would have gone through with the deal. But after his December play thus far, I don't think I would give up Paul. Patience.

Pacers Fan · 12-18-2012, 10:34 AM

You better believe I would've given up Paul George for James Harden, and still would. Harden would be the perfect SG for our offense. He and Hill would be a perfect pair in the backcourt and it would allow Danny to play a little more off the ball.

The problem with this trade probably was that Harden didn't want to commit to an extension with us, we didn't want to shell out another max contract after we just paid Hibbert, or that OKC wanted George Hill or David West along with George.

**Knick Killer** · 12-19-2012, 06:42 PM

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Indiana Pacers power forward David West has the names memorized as if there will be a final exam: Kenyon Martin, Stromile Swift, Amare Stoudemire, Marcus Fizer, Drew Gooden.

West watched the NBA drafts in the years before he would be eligible and knew his playing style was different from his immediate predecessors at the position. He didn't play above the rim and he wasn't the quickest player on the court.

West didn't have to figure out his "flaws." NBA teams told him prior to the 2003 draft that he'd a marginal player in the league because he didn't fit the prototype of a modern NBA power forward.

"I never let any of that get to me, it just motivated me," said West, who has been surpassed at the position only by Stoudemire. "If you look around, most of those guys who could just fly out the roof dunking the ball are no longer in the league."

And West?

He's averaged double figures each of the past eight seasons, made two All-Star appearances, with possibility of being selected for a third this season.

West could easily stick his nose in the air and ask all his doubters, "How do you like me now?" But that's not his style.

"That's just never a part of me," West said as he shrugged his shoulders. "That's never appealed to me. I always felt like you just go out and play the game."

Center Roy Hibbert is the Pacers' highest paid player. Danny Granger is the longest tenured. George Hill is the hometown favorite. Paul George has the most potential. West, simply put, is the backbone of the team. He's been the Pacers' most consistent player this season, averaging 17.6 points and 8.3 rebounds a game.

"He just knows how to play the game," Pacers coach Frank Vogel said

...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...rward/1777745/

Pretty good article on David West and his career. Should read the rest of it if you have time.

**Knick Killer** · 12-19-2012, 07:24 PM

Ben Hansbroughs Stats tonight: 0 pts, 0 assists, 1 rebound in 7 minutes.

This guy is a stud.

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**Jace** · 12-19-2012, 07:51 PM

I didn't watch the game, and I'm assuming you did, but 7 minutes? Not a lot to judge a guy.

**Luke** · 12-19-2012, 09:46 PM

Oh, and to clarify my Paul George stat estimation earlier. That was a 21/7/3 in a vacuum and not taking offensive system into consideration. I don't think he could do that in Vogel's offense just like I think he could do more than that if he pans out correctly in a D'Antoni-like system with a great point guard. It was just a medium where I attempted to project roughly his value.

He's a fun kid to watch.

**Gonzo** · 12-20-2012, 08:44 AM

Ben Hansbrough injured his shoulder in the 2nd quarter.

**Gonzo** · 12-20-2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke

Oh, and to clarify my Paul George stat estimation earlier. That was a 21/7/3 in a vacuum and not taking offensive system into consideration. I don't think he could do that in Vogel's offense just like I think he could do more than that if he pans out correctly in a D'Antoni-like system with a great point guard. It was just a medium where I attempted to project roughly his value.

He's a fun kid to watch.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Granger comes back and see if he takes a back seat and spots up most of the time while PG continues to try to create shots. PG's shot off the dribble has become incredibly more consistent during the season, and his basket cuts are looking good. I think the offense is finally learning how to play around him, but that could all change when Granger gets back.

**Knick Killer** · 12-20-2012, 03:26 PM

Did not watch the game as they blocked my streaming site at work. I'm aware 7 minutes isn't a lot of time, but this isn't the first time his stat line has been filled with donuts.

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Pacers Fan Legend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bloomington, Indiana Age: 22 Posts: 16,417 Rep Power: 21474863	Re: Pacers Daily Discussion You better believe I would've given up Paul George for James Harden, and still would. Harden would be the perfect SG for our offense. He and Hill would be a perfect pair in the backcourt and it would allow Danny to play a little more off the ball. The problem with this trade probably was that Harden didn't want to commit to an extension with us, we didn't want to shell out another max contract after we just paid Hibbert, or that OKC wanted George Hill or David West along with George. __________________ Indeed.

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Jace X V I Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami/Raleigh Age: 27 Posts: 16,224 Rep Power: 2677068	Re: Pacers Daily Discussion I didn't watch the game, and I'm assuming you did, but 7 minutes? Not a lot to judge a guy. __________________ Jace's soundcloud

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Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,912 Rep Power: 4300832	Re: Pacers Daily Discussion Oh, and to clarify my Paul George stat estimation earlier. That was a 21/7/3 in a vacuum and not taking offensive system into consideration. I don't think he could do that in Vogel's offense just like I think he could do more than that if he pans out correctly in a D'Antoni-like system with a great point guard. It was just a medium where I attempted to project roughly his value. He's a fun kid to watch. __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

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12-20-2012, 03:26 PM	#690 (permalink)
Knick Killer -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Age: 20 Posts: 9,440 Rep Power: 8494693	Re: Pacers Daily Discussion Did not watch the game as they blocked my streaming site at work. I'm aware 7 minutes isn't a lot of time, but this isn't the first time his stat line has been filled with donuts. __________________

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