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Old 02-20-2013, 05:47 AM   #931 (permalink)
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What I hadn't considered before is that if we can somehow keep them both, and at least for this year, that only leaves Hansbrough's 16 minutes for Millsap to take. Millsap and West absolutely cannot play together except for special, short stretches.
Millsap's worked pretty well in short stretches at the three in the past. It would allow Indiana to go ultra-big on teams with Hibbert/West/Millsap/George/whoever for short stretches, which could create some interesting mismatches on offense while not hurting you much on D.
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Millsap's worked pretty well in short stretches at the three in the past. It would allow Indiana to go ultra-big on teams with Hibbert/West/Millsap/George/whoever for short stretches, which could create some interesting mismatches on offense while not hurting you much on D.
Can he really guard Small Forwards, though? I know he's played a little 3 in Utah, but we talked about his slow feet and declining athleticism in the other thread. Seems like Hayward would get most of the backup 3 minutes as well, though.
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Can he really guard Small Forwards, though? I know he's played a little 3 in Utah, but we talked about his slow feet and declining athleticism in the other thread. Seems like Hayward would get most of the backup 3 minutes as well, though.
I wouldn't slot him to play 30 minutes a night at the three, but for short stretches he can guard small forwards. Also, with Paul George and another guard out there, you can easily hide him on a poor offensive player, or a spot-up shooter, because the other two perimeter guys can guard any combination of guard-forward or guard-guard.
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Anyone else feel like Hayward would be good for the fan base too?
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Hayward's not only good for the fan base, I think he's a solid player too. I've caught a couple Jazz games and he looks much better than he did in his rookie season.


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I wouldn't slot him to play 30 minutes a night at the three, but for short stretches he can guard small forwards. Also, with Paul George and another guard out there, you can easily hide him on a poor offensive player, or a spot-up shooter, because the other two perimeter guys can guard any combination of guard-forward or guard-guard.
Ah yeh, that does sound reasonable for maybe 5-10 minutes every other game. It really depends on the team we play, but it wouldn't be too hard to hide him with Hill and George on the perimeter. I'd worry about trying that against teams like Boston that go very small, or even Atlanta that has Korver running around screens. But, I could see some circumstances where that would work. And I'm sure every few games we could run Hill/Hayward/George/Millsap/West for a few minutes, similar to how Pendergraph gets a little burn at the 5. Regardless, it'd be really tough to trade Danny Granger for a guy we have to wait for certain matchups to give big minutes to, even if that includes Hayward. Another thing to consider is that Vogel typically doesn't like to mess with his rotations game-to-game, so it might be tough for him to implement a Paul Millsap strategy.

And yeh, Gonzo, I can see Hayward being good for the fanbase, especially considering the number of people we'd attract from Brownsburg and the Butler area for maybe his first season or two here. Plus, it's a feel-good story for the rest of the state.
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Hayward's not only good for the fan base, I think he's a solid player too. I've caught a couple Jazz games and he looks much better than he did in his rookie season.


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Hayward's solid. I think he'd be able to give us 75% of what Mike Dunleavy gave us a few years ago in terms of basketball IQ, passing ability, and shooting ability. He's also a better defender than Mike, but that isn't too hard to do.
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Heard some rumblings that DJ and Gerald Green are on the block but I don't think we will or should make any moves. Our chemistry is great and we already have Danny coming back.


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I know we were rumored to be interested in Reddick, but I'm glad we didn't move anyone.

No need to disrupt anything, or anyone right now.
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No Danny Granger tonight. I hope there wasn't a setback that we don't know about.


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Yep, makes much more sense to debut in the second night of a back-to-back as opposed to the first. And I'm glad we're playing Detroit again. Hopefully Danny won't have to log too many minutes. Is he going to start? I know some coaches like to bring their star players off the bench upon return from injury, but Vogel seems like the type to stick him right in the starting lineup.
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