Since there isn't always gamedays, I thought I'd make this thread so we have a place we can talk about the games if there isn't another thread to post in.
Anyone see last nights game? I missed it. First thing to that popped out at me when I looked at the box score is it looks like the combo of Hibbert, West and Hansbrough are still rebounding amazingly well. Only 3 games in but a nice sign so far.
Rough night for George going 0-4. He get locked down, or just have a bad game?
Frank Vogel is changing the rotation. Leandro Barbosa is in as the backup shooting guard. George Hill is now the backup point guard. A.J. Price is the third point guard. Barbosa will make his Pacers debut against the Clippers tomorrow. "(Barbosa will play) anywhere between 15-20 minutes," Vogel said. "He picked up a lot of our basic offensive sets today pretty quickly. We’ll see how he’s going and we’ll adjust it when he’s out there."
Y'all are pretty good and that's the way it's going to stay unless Paul George develops into an allstar. Solid center, solid point guard, solid forwards, pretty much solid everything. But nothing spectaular. It looks like the Pacers will be a mediocre to good playoff team for years to come but never truly contend.
Granted, looking at the history of the franchise since the Malace, "pretty good" sounds pretty good at this point. Good for you guys.
Paul Goerge will probably develop into an all-star with some more time. If we want to get off this mediocre bandwagon, Danny Granger and Collison need to be shipped and we need a decent backup center.
Pacers Fan basically summed it up but heres my thoughts too. Well saying we will always just be a mediocre to good playoff team isn't really fair to say at the moment. Our team is still very young and guys like Paul George, George Hill, Darren Collinson Roy Hibbert, Tyler Hansbrough etc. haven't even reached their full potential yet. Our cap situation looks really good right now as well and we still have all of our first round picks. Also saying were "pretty good" and that's good for us is kind of ignorant. All signs point to us going in the right direction and only getting better.
I find it funny that a lot of Pacers fans and a few fans who've barely seen the team play this year are already hitting the "we'll be forever mediocre" panic button. Thinking about the last few years, being the Hawks of the next 5 seasons is a nice problem to have. Who knows, maybe the team really steps it up defensively and Hibbert/George/Granger is really the three-headed monster we need.
Even though Hansbrough has had a terrible year, I'm sure he'll bounce back. The only guy I see absolutely zero potential in is Darren Collison. Dude just does not play well without the ball in his hands, and he isn't that great with it, either. He's a timid-shooting, undersized PG with very little court vision and terrible defense. He has absolutely no future besides being a backup. There are tweaks to be made, but besides maybe ditching Collison and upgrading for a backup big and a backup swingman, the team we have is the way to go right now. We have all our first round draft picks, and who knows, maybe we'll strike gold.
Barbosa came out on fire and definitely proved he deserves a big role on the team off the bench. Hopefully he keeps it up as you can never have enough sparks off the bench.
And as far as people acting like the Pacers are first or second round cannon fodder in the playoffs, not only now but in the future, you're going to eat your words. Other than our starting PG, we don't have a weakness. And I for one think Collison is a lot better than he gets credit for. The core is still extremely young and I fully expect them to get better. It would not surprise me if George or Hibbert took the next step this year or next and become 2nd tier stars. We have a deep and talented enough team where 2 semi stars should be enough to make us a legit contender.
Right now our bench is just proving everything I'm saying. Hell, outside of 1 bone headed foul Amundson is even playing well.
I don't see what is going to sway my opinion; if y'all get a good seed then you'll probably make it to the second round and get beat by either the Heat or Bulls. Which sounds like a pretty fair scenario for a decent team.
Anyways, great team win tonight against the Clippers. All ten Pacers that played scored and five of them scored in double digits. Not bad for just some "decent" team. We have a couple easy games coming up so hopefully we can get a nice winning streak going before the Miami game.
Good win. The game was pretty chippy, Paul and Griffin acting entitled to foul calls and any kind of physicality. I guess that's what Los Angeles does to you.
Also, not so sure about Barbosa. He looked like Dahntay Jones 2.0 out there, held the ball a bit too much at times.
WILD game in Washington tonight! Came back from a 20 point deficit at half to get the win.
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