Offseason thread

[Firefight]

I'm not sure how this trade can be defended by saying either.."well, it's good if we make another move..." ...or, "at least we have a back-up center."

This is a bad trade for the Pacers. If the trade was closer in talent, you can hinge your decision on future moves surrounding this one...but in this case, you trade a PG with starters ability for an overpaid back-up center?

I'm a Chicago fan, and although I never really saw the Pacers as much of a threat, this trade definitely has you guys taking a step back. I understand Collison was expendable, but you most definitely could have done better than a back-up center with a bad contract.

[Gonzo]

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Pacers Fan

I'd probably do that if we could get a backup 4 along with Augustin. I want no part of Lou Amundson or Jeff Pendergraph playing 20 mpg, or Danny Granger playing for the 4 for 10 minutes in small ball. I don't think we have the cap room left to absorb Tyrus Thomas, so maybe bring DJ White back to Indiana?

But really, Hansbrough's been terrible since apparently he stopped chugging Red Bulls before every game. He has little to no defensive or rebounding abilities, his jumper is shaky, he still has no left hand, and his post game is just about nonexistent.

So every guy that you don't like on the team sucks?

Collison sucks.

Hansbrough sucks.

Who else sucks?

[Hatrik]

Augustin had his qualifying offer rescinded today. He's a straight up UFA today.

[Dissonance]

You guys signed him already


Pacers agree to 1-year deal with D.J. Augustin

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Dissonance

You guys signed him already


Pacers agree to 1-year deal with D.J. Augustin

Good. I needed some good news after being upset about the Collison trade.

If you look at it as Collison and Jones for Mahinmi and Augustin it seems fair.

I'm "meh" on the Green pickup, if anything I'm not liking the direction we're heading this offseason.

We aren't a better team than we were last season.

[Pacers Fan]

Originally Posted by R-Star

So every guy that you don't like on the team sucks?

Collison sucks.

Hansbrough sucks.

Who else sucks?

You've inversed the relation. If you don't perform, I won't be a fan, unless your name is Eddie Gill. I used to despise David West and Roy Hibbert until they started performing well on my team. Now they're two of my favorites. There's a certain ratio of talent:expectations:worthlessness that you need to have for me to like you as a player.

But to answer your question, Pendergraph and Plumlee. Lou, Barbosa, Fesenko, and AJ Price aren't coming back, so I don't have to worry about them anymore. Lance is kind of worthless, although I'm pulling for him to finally have a productive season.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Pacers Fan

You've inversed the relation. If you don't perform, I won't be a fan, unless your name is Eddie Gill. I used to despise David West and Roy Hibbert until they started performing well on my team. Now they're two of my favorites. There's a certain ratio of talent:expectations:worthlessness that you need to have for me to like you as a player.

But to answer your question, Pendergraph and Plumlee. Lou, Barbosa, Fesenko, and AJ Price aren't coming back, so I don't have to worry about them anymore. Lance is kind of worthless, although I'm pulling for him to finally have a productive season.

Problem is Collison is a much better player than you lead on. Handbrough was a let down last year, but I still like having him come off the bench and energy it up.

[Pacers Fan]

Originally Posted by R-Star

Problem is Collison is a much better player than you lead on. Handbrough was a let down last year, but I still like having him come off the bench and energy it up.

Sure, Collison's talented, but he's on my shitlist right now after that abysmal performance against the Heat. As far as I'm concerned, he's a good backup PG on a decent team, and we just slightly upgraded him with DJ Augustin.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Pacers Fan

Sure, Collison's talented, but he's on my shitlist right now after that abysmal performance against the Heat. As far as I'm concerned, he's a good backup PG on a decent team, and we just slightly upgraded him with DJ Augustin.

I don't think Augustin is an upgrade at all. But time will tell.


Collison to me was part of our core. Sure you can trade away core guys, but not for Ian Mahinmi.

[Hatrik]

Originally Posted by R-Star

I don't think Augustin is an upgrade at all. But time will tell.


Collison to me was part of our core. Sure you can trade away core guys, but not for Ian Mahinmi.

Augustin might surprise you here. I think a big part of his only so-so statistics is the lack of talent he's played with his whole career. He's getting 6.5 assists playing with basically no-one who can score. Now that he gets to play with one of the better NBA starting centers and a 3pt gunner like Granger he might be putting up 7.5 apg. And his %'s will probably go way up, since defenses will focus significantly less on him now that he's in indy.

[clownskull]

i was curious if anyone knows much about gerald green?
i haven't seen anything of him and was wondering if he is any good at driving and creating his own shot?
we could use a guy who has that ability. hopefully he can do some of that as that skill has been something this team has historically lacked.
we have had a few but, not many over the years.

[Knick Killer]

Glad to hear that the Wizards picked up AJ Price. Hopefully he gets a chance to show he can play.

[Pacers Fan]

Originally Posted by clownskull

i was curious if anyone knows much about gerald green?
i haven't seen anything of him and was wondering if he is any good at driving and creating his own shot?
we could use a guy who has that ability. hopefully he can do some of that as that skill has been something this team has historically lacked.
we have had a few but, not many over the years.

Not very good. He has the handle of Paul George in the summer league last year or rookie Danny Granger. He'll hit open jumpers, make a few cuts, and maybe get some straight line drives for some dunks. That's good enough for me. But yes, I'd love to have someone who can create off the dribble.

[Knick Killer]

Well I can guarantee Green will be fun to watch. I don't really know what to expect from him but I am excited we picked him up.