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Old 04-20-2012, 09:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: KVBL Reboot Rules/Ratings Explanation

New cap stuff, so you don't have to dig in the twitter thread:

Cap: $66M
Lux: $82.5M
Hard: $99M

MLE: $6.7M
Bi-A: $2.9M

0-6: $15.6M
7-9: $18.7M
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- Teams are free to make trades that leave them with no first round picks in consecutive years, but they will be expected to acquire a pick at a later time to avoid that happening; the penalty for not getting a pick to avoid that happening is that the next available first round pick becomes #60
This rule is no more after the 2021 draft. It's no longer needed. Penalties will be applied in 2021 if applicable, but otherwise there's nothing doing.
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Re: KVBL Rules/Ratings Explanation

Just a reminder, since this has come up/been uncertain for some...

When you have Bird rights on a player and you are under the cap, you are not able to spend that cap room and THEN also re-sign your player. There was a bit of a hiccup with that last year as I flubbed some stuff up and Brian was able to offer to Westbrook and Spence despite his RFA spending....thankfully the sim fixed that for me by having Spence and Westbrook sign elsewhere.

Scenarios (in which you have cap room):

- You have Bird rights on an RFA; You can offer to other RFAs, but if matching on the player for whom you have Bird rights renders another offer invalid, the other player who signed an offer sheet will take the QO and be UFA the next season

- You have Bird rights on a UFA; By signing other players, you are renouncing your Bird rights on the UFA. You are not able to sign other FAs using cap room and then ALSO sign your player using Bird rights. It's one or the other.


Cap holds exist in the NBA to prevent stuff like this, but we don't explicitly use them because of the limitations they'd put on player movement. The scenarios mentioned above are instances where a cap hold of sorts is used, but it's not officially a hold....just works about the same.
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For contracts of five or six years, team options can't be placed in year two.
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Re: KVBL Rules/Ratings Explanation

I thought it went without saying, but apparently not:

Shady deals in which a player is included to make salaries work, only to be traded back to the original team for scraps later (when minimum guys are cleared to be moved) will not be allowed. Two teams cannot agree to a deal that is conditional on those same two teams making a deal later on.

If a nonminimum player is traded from Team A to Team B, team B cannot trade that same player back to Team A for a period of one full season.


The trade in my inbox will be allowed because this rule wasn't in place before (I didn't think it had to be). These rules are effective immediately going forward, however.
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Re: KVBL Rules/Ratings Explanation

New stuff:

- Player Options are finished. Any remaining player options will still exist, but teams can no longer offer them

- Joining 5/6 year deals, 4 year deals are now also unable to have a Team Option in year two

- 6 year deals can now have three Team Options (only if in years 4-6; two years somewhere 3-6 otherwise), with two being the max for all other contracts (obviously just one for two year deals)

- 2nd round of the draft is now optional; if your list (or you, in chat) doesn't explicitly state that you're making your 2nd round selection(s), you will be skipped over without taking a player; undrafted players will tend to be deleted from the sim file; less 2nd round rookies will be created each year, meaning if each team uses their 2nd, the late 2nds will not have any players to pick from - oh well
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Re: KVBL Rules/Ratings Explanation

As alluded to in the FA chat, a new rule/clarification for next offseason:

- The moment you go over $99M in the offseason due to signings, you lose Bird rights AS WELL AS the MLE and Bi-Annual (only minimum signings from that point forward)
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Re: KVBL Rules/Ratings Explanation

NO TANKING!

Also, teams can only trade one "nonlisted" future first round pick per trade. The sim shows three years' worth of picks at a time, the nonlisted picks are those that exist in the future but aren't displayed.
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If a nonminimum player is traded from Team A to Team B, team B cannot trade that same player back to Team A for a period of one full season.
Amending the wording on this a bit. Rather than one full season, teams can only reacquire the player once the next offseason is reached, as long as the player is acquired before the trade deadline (ie. no trading for them in the playoffs then getting them back that offseason).
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NO TANKING!
Additions:

- There is no longer benching players that have been traded but need to wait until after sim two; injuries are random, this action makes sense in real life but not here.

- I'm not going to dictate to you what lineup you need to roll with, but if you have a questionable lineup I'm going to PM you and ask your justification for it. If there's legitimacy behind it, no worries. If not, it needs to be changed. If you ignore the PM, I will make changes myself.

- Offensive/defensive focus and intensities are your domain, but the above is going to apply to this as well. If you have a guy with 1/6/6/8 O 1-9s and you have him on outside focus, that's crap. Don't do it.
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Amending the wording on this a bit. Rather than one full season, teams can only reacquire the player once the next offseason is reached, as long as the player is acquired before the trade deadline (ie. no trading for them in the playoffs then getting them back that offseason).
Amending this again. Two sims is the new wait period. Any trade that is meant to go around the original intent of this rule will not be allowed. Also:

- Minimum contracts are now automatically 2 years with a TO on year two, it'll make my life easier and won't change much of anything when it comes to contracts

- Pick swap bets are no longer permitted. Teams will still be allowed to trade picks from different years.
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- Teams may not offer extensions if they are over the hard cap (it does not matter if they are under the hard cap in the season in which the extension would begin)

- Teams that begin the offseason with cap exceptions available (MLE, Bi-annual) will lose those exceptions the moment they pass the luxury limit or hard cap (the latter is already in place)

- Teams will forfeit their (first available) first round pick in each consecutive season they are over the hard cap after the first

- Teams that are over the hard cap after the trade deadline will not be able to include team options for any re-signings; if they are over the hard cap for a second time (or beyond), they will not have access to Bird rights in the coming offseason

- Cap room calculations will now include the MLE + Bi-annual rather than just the MLE (for whatever reason I'd been doing it that way since the beginning). Teams under the cap by less than $9.6M (and more than $6.7M) will have the option of using either the MLE/Bi-annual OR their available cap room.
New cap rules, in place for 2037-2038 and beyond.
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Re: KVBL Rules/Ratings Explanation

Two things. First, adding the recent new rule to this thread:

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- Three year contracts will now only be able to have TOs in year three
Second, here's the rules on extensions (I thought they were around somewhere, but I didn't find them...perhaps this will save me some time and explaining in the future):

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- Players are eligible for an extension only if they are on a four year contract or longer (the exception to this is second rounders)

- If a player is on the final year of their deal, you can offer up to a four year extension. If they have one more year left after the current one, you can offer up to three.

- Extension amounts are tied to current salaries. Raises can be anywhere up to 10.5% as with any normal Bird rights signing. Let's say you have a player at $18.6M in the final year of their deal. You can offer $20.55M max in the first year of the extension (or, $16.65M if you want a declining contract; anywhere between those two values is gravy, with that $1.95M difference being the max possible throughout the extension).

- There are special rules for players on their rookie deals. First round picks have two guaranteed years followed by two option years and then a QO. During the fourth year of their deal (pre-QO year), you can offer an extension of up to five years. This extension can start at anything up to the max (with the max raise/drop being 10.5% of that). For second round picks, the QO year is either year three or four of their contract. The same rules apply to them as first rounders in the pre-QO year.

- Previously, extensions were considered a continuation of the current contract. Technically, they are. For team options, though, we will not consider them as such. There are extensions in the extensions thread where players had a team option in year two of their extension. Henceforth, this will not be allowed. Essentially, the regular TO rules apply to extensions now. If a two year extension, TO in year two is fine. Three? Year three. Etc.

- If the final year of a player's deal is a team option and you extend them beyond that point (this obviously only applies to players who are two offseasons out from FA/eligible for merely a three year extension), the team option is voided. New team options can of course be added during the extension itself.
If there is still any uncertainty about extension rules, PM me or post in the season discussion thread. I'll clear up any confusion and add it to this post.
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