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**Vuchato** · 07-20-2012, 09:23 AM

Freddy Childs, 25, SuperSonics
52/40 34/76 55/34 44/38 82/82/18/7 4/9/5/9 7/9/5/9
2021 35.3 mpg 14.4/6.3/7.0/3.0/0.3, 3.1 to .392/.788/.351

Andre Cannon, 29, Clippers
71/46 43/75 57/31 13/23 59/79/39/14 8/8/4/8 4/6/2/8
2021 28.2 mpg 15.3/2.6/4.3/2.7/0.4, 1.9 to .378/.726/.327

Gerrod Clifton, 28, Nets
37/50 35/75 53/37 22/29 79/70/53/0 7/8/3/9 7/8/2/8
2021 36.0 mpg 16.0/4.4/7.6/2.0/0.1, 2.1 to .417/.780/.343

Teddy Moss III, 26, Hornets
48/46 38/90 41/35 8/22 72/81/44/2 7/9/1/9 6/8/3/7
2021 34.9 mpg 14.8/3.0/6.7/2.6/0.2, 2.3 to .391/.908/.290

Clyde Grubbs, 24, Bucks
27/49 7/93 97/40 6/12 55/70/53/9 9/4/2/9 4/5/2/5
2021 29.0 mpg 14.3/1.4/4.8/1.7/0.4, 2.0 to .408/.963/.383

Russell Westbrook, 33, Thunder
74/48 55/81 17/22 26/25 56/60/37/4 5/7/6/8 7/6/4/7
2021 34.5 mpg 18.4/3.9/6.5/1.8/0.2, 2.3 to .431/.844/.223

Charles Conway, 29, Warriors
56/53 44/89 87/42 6/15 45/18/52/2 7/8/1/9 4/7/1/7
2021 25.9 mpg 16.3/1.5/2.3/0.4/0.1, 1.5 to .426/.856/.367

Ray McAllister, 29, Cavaliers
43/50 30/89 46/36 23/43 37/44/57/7 7/7/2/7 8/6/4/7
2021 33.5 mpg 14.8/6.0/3.2/1.4/0.3, 1.7 to .441/.873/.371

John Wall, 32, 76ers
58/54 32/76 39/33 13/30 70/58/40/5 5/7/2/7 7/8/3/6
2021 35.0 mpg 19.2/3.6/7.3/2.1/0.3, 2.8 to .450/.816/.313

Ben Cashman, 23, Bullets
49/55 31/86 9/21 18/18 99/98/13/4 5/8/2/9 6/9/3/8
2021 33.3 mpg 14.3/2.8/8.9/3.2/0.2, 3.5 to .493/.869/.234

Devin Bishop, 25, Clippers
50/42 34/82 2/0 19/26 100/93/31/6 3/9/1/9 3/7/1/7
2021 35.0 mpg 11.5/3.6/8.5/3.9/0.3, 2.3 to .394/.817/.077

Young Hi, 29, Raptors
21/44 21/89 50/43 7/19 65/63/48/1 7/9/2/9 3/5/1/6
2021 36.1 mpg 12.8/2.3/6.5/2.4/0.2, 2.7 to .440/.955/.419

Forest Katz, 23, Lakers
30/46 12/83 29/35 10/23 63/55/68/2 6/7/2/5 6/7/1/5
2021 38.4 mpg 9.6/2.5/7.8/2.4/0.3, 1.9 to .363/.840/.317

**Vuchato** · 07-20-2012, 09:27 AM

I probably missed some guys. If there's interest I'll do other positions too. Will have my votes later

fsecreast · 07-20-2012, 09:29 AM

Ryan Miyagi.

**Dornado** · 07-20-2012, 10:00 AM

Willis Joseph is averaging 13 ppg and 8.1 assists right now with 2.7 steals per game... not a top 5 guy but I thought I'd show him some love.

**Dornado** · 07-20-2012, 10:02 AM

and I like this idea as a series of threads... I'll vote in a bit

fsecreast · 07-20-2012, 10:10 AM

I vote John Wall. He's got the hardware, he's also the biggest scorer.

**BlakeJesus** · 07-20-2012, 10:13 AM

Tim Henson > Clyde Grubbs.

Interesting group of PGs we have in the league. Will vote later.

**Vuchato** · 07-20-2012, 10:24 AM

Picked Clifton, Cashman, Wall, Childs, Katz. Looks like most agree besides Katz. There were a lot of guys I was thinking about in the last spot, but Katz was the only one who really had no weaknesses in his game.

Wanted to make this poll public but forgot too, looks like a couple people only voted once

scdn · 07-20-2012, 10:31 AM

Katz has a weakness if you want scoring from him. I understand your point though. Honourable mention to Milt Mickelbaum.

scdn · 07-20-2012, 10:33 AM

Actually looking at stats Mickelbaum is in my top 5.

**El Shaqtus** · 07-20-2012, 10:41 AM

Conway is a PG in designation only. He's not even handling PG duties on his own team

JerryWest · 07-20-2012, 11:04 AM

1) Cashman
2) Clifton
3) Katz
4) Bishop
5) Moss

MemphisX · 07-20-2012, 11:04 AM

Kevin Stewart of the Sharks deserves mention.

scdn · 07-20-2012, 02:25 PM

Yes I agree about Stewart. Forgot about him.

jayk009 · 07-20-2012, 02:29 PM

rayray is more of a sg these days

07-20-2012, 09:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
Vuchato Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MA Posts: 6,054 Rep Power: 6652520	Top 5 KVBL PGs Freddy Childs, 25, SuperSonics 52/40 34/76 55/34 44/38 82/82/18/7 4/9/5/9 7/9/5/9 2021 35.3 mpg 14.4/6.3/7.0/3.0/0.3, 3.1 to .392/.788/.351 Andre Cannon, 29, Clippers 71/46 43/75 57/31 13/23 59/79/39/14 8/8/4/8 4/6/2/8 2021 28.2 mpg 15.3/2.6/4.3/2.7/0.4, 1.9 to .378/.726/.327 Gerrod Clifton, 28, Nets 37/50 35/75 53/37 22/29 79/70/53/0 7/8/3/9 7/8/2/8 2021 36.0 mpg 16.0/4.4/7.6/2.0/0.1, 2.1 to .417/.780/.343 Teddy Moss III, 26, Hornets 48/46 38/90 41/35 8/22 72/81/44/2 7/9/1/9 6/8/3/7 2021 34.9 mpg 14.8/3.0/6.7/2.6/0.2, 2.3 to .391/.908/.290 Clyde Grubbs, 24, Bucks 27/49 7/93 97/40 6/12 55/70/53/9 9/4/2/9 4/5/2/5 2021 29.0 mpg 14.3/1.4/4.8/1.7/0.4, 2.0 to .408/.963/.383 Russell Westbrook, 33, Thunder 74/48 55/81 17/22 26/25 56/60/37/4 5/7/6/8 7/6/4/7 2021 34.5 mpg 18.4/3.9/6.5/1.8/0.2, 2.3 to .431/.844/.223 Charles Conway, 29, Warriors 56/53 44/89 87/42 6/15 45/18/52/2 7/8/1/9 4/7/1/7 2021 25.9 mpg 16.3/1.5/2.3/0.4/0.1, 1.5 to .426/.856/.367 Ray McAllister, 29, Cavaliers 43/50 30/89 46/36 23/43 37/44/57/7 7/7/2/7 8/6/4/7 2021 33.5 mpg 14.8/6.0/3.2/1.4/0.3, 1.7 to .441/.873/.371 John Wall, 32, 76ers 58/54 32/76 39/33 13/30 70/58/40/5 5/7/2/7 7/8/3/6 2021 35.0 mpg 19.2/3.6/7.3/2.1/0.3, 2.8 to .450/.816/.313 Ben Cashman, 23, Bullets 49/55 31/86 9/21 18/18 99/98/13/4 5/8/2/9 6/9/3/8 2021 33.3 mpg 14.3/2.8/8.9/3.2/0.2, 3.5 to .493/.869/.234 Devin Bishop, 25, Clippers 50/42 34/82 2/0 19/26 100/93/31/6 3/9/1/9 3/7/1/7 2021 35.0 mpg 11.5/3.6/8.5/3.9/0.3, 2.3 to .394/.817/.077 Young Hi, 29, Raptors 21/44 21/89 50/43 7/19 65/63/48/1 7/9/2/9 3/5/1/6 2021 36.1 mpg 12.8/2.3/6.5/2.4/0.2, 2.7 to .440/.955/.419 Forest Katz, 23, Lakers 30/46 12/83 29/35 10/23 63/55/68/2 6/7/2/5 6/7/1/5 2021 38.4 mpg 9.6/2.5/7.8/2.4/0.3, 1.9 to .363/.840/.317 __________________ KVBL Las Vegas Timberwolves Kenny Fugere/CJ Sampson/Walter Pelfrey Hollis Davies/Vytautas Jokubaitas Tayerone Blackman/Charlie Fineman/Willy Grant/Scott Diamond Mac Moore/Kobe Danielson/Kong Randolph Rafa Salvadores/Sam Sagan/Mick Scragg

07-20-2012, 09:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
Vuchato Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MA Posts: 6,054 Rep Power: 6652520	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs I probably missed some guys. If there's interest I'll do other positions too. Will have my votes later __________________ KVBL Las Vegas Timberwolves Kenny Fugere/CJ Sampson/Walter Pelfrey Hollis Davies/Vytautas Jokubaitas Tayerone Blackman/Charlie Fineman/Willy Grant/Scott Diamond Mac Moore/Kobe Danielson/Kong Randolph Rafa Salvadores/Sam Sagan/Mick Scragg

07-20-2012, 09:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
fsecreast Star Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 3,139 Rep Power: 234298	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs Ryan Miyagi.

07-20-2012, 10:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dornado Community Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: WI Posts: 10,477 Rep Power: 10609191	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs Willis Joseph is averaging 13 ppg and 8.1 assists right now with 2.7 steals per game... not a top 5 guy but I thought I'd show him some love. __________________

07-20-2012, 10:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
Dornado Community Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: WI Posts: 10,477 Rep Power: 10609191	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs and I like this idea as a series of threads... I'll vote in a bit __________________

View Poll Results: Who are the best KVBL PGs? (Choose Five)
Freddy Childs	11	64.71%
Andre Cannon	0	0%
Gerrod Clifton	16	94.12%
Teddy Moss III	5	29.41%
Clyde Grubbs	1	5.88%
Russell Westbrook	3	17.65%
Charles Conway	0	0%
Ray McAllister	1	5.88%
John Wall	10	58.82%
Ben Cashman	14	82.35%
Devin Bishop	6	35.29%
Young Hi	1	5.88%
Forest Katz	2	11.76%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

07-20-2012, 10:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
fsecreast Star Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 3,139 Rep Power: 234298	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs I vote John Wall. He's got the hardware, he's also the biggest scorer.

07-20-2012, 10:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 17,043 Rep Power: 12803038	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs Tim Henson > Clyde Grubbs. Interesting group of PGs we have in the league. Will vote later. __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

07-20-2012, 10:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
Vuchato Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: MA Posts: 6,054 Rep Power: 6652520	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs Picked Clifton, Cashman, Wall, Childs, Katz. Looks like most agree besides Katz. There were a lot of guys I was thinking about in the last spot, but Katz was the only one who really had no weaknesses in his game. Wanted to make this poll public but forgot too, looks like a couple people only voted once __________________ KVBL Las Vegas Timberwolves Kenny Fugere/CJ Sampson/Walter Pelfrey Hollis Davies/Vytautas Jokubaitas Tayerone Blackman/Charlie Fineman/Willy Grant/Scott Diamond Mac Moore/Kobe Danielson/Kong Randolph Rafa Salvadores/Sam Sagan/Mick Scragg

07-20-2012, 10:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
scdn History will repeat after 20 years Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,615 Rep Power: 1626404	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs Katz has a weakness if you want scoring from him. I understand your point though. Honourable mention to Milt Mickelbaum. __________________ KVBL Owner, San Antonio Spurs Tyler Tate Moore Booker

07-20-2012, 10:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
scdn History will repeat after 20 years Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,615 Rep Power: 1626404	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs Actually looking at stats Mickelbaum is in my top 5. __________________ KVBL Owner, San Antonio Spurs Tyler Tate Moore Booker

07-20-2012, 10:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
El Shaqtus KVBL's Resident Old Fart Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Louis Metro Posts: 6,571 Rep Power: 1819770	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs Conway is a PG in designation only. He's not even handling PG duties on his own team __________________ Mom, thanks for everything. RIP Coach Rick Majerus 12/1/12. You were the one that said it was OK to think big at SLU. You were right. KVBL Lexington Kings 2023 KVBL Champions: St. Louis Warriors (El Shaqtus) 2026 KVBL First Loser 2013 BBBL First Loser

07-20-2012, 11:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
JerryWest All-Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,438 Rep Power: 2185328	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs 1) Cashman 2) Clifton 3) Katz 4) Bishop 5) Moss __________________ KVBL Basketball Sim, Los Angeles Lakers FRSL, Los Angeles Lakers Season 2 Champs (64-18), Season 4 Champs (66-16), Season 5 Champs (72-10)

07-20-2012, 11:04 AM	#13 (permalink)
MemphisX Welcome to the Grindhouse! Join Date: Sep 2002 Age: 18 Posts: 15,044 Rep Power: 8195455	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs Kevin Stewart of the Sharks deserves mention. __________________ Los Angeles Clippers HQ KVBL L.A. Clippers Team Page 2016 Western Conference Finalist 2017 Western Conference Finalist 2027 KVBL Finalist 2028 KVBL Champions PG Anibal Levrino \| SG DJ Alexander \| SF Sky Johnson \| PF Henry Torre \| C Frank Weiland(MVP) \| 6th Man Nikolai Koznyshev 2018 FRSL Champion L.A. Clippers

07-20-2012, 02:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
scdn History will repeat after 20 years Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,615 Rep Power: 1626404	Re: Top 5 KVBL PGs Yes I agree about Stewart. Forgot about him. __________________ KVBL Owner, San Antonio Spurs Tyler Tate Moore Booker

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07-20-2012, 02:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
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