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**King Joseus** · 08-31-2012, 10:55 PM

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Scouting will work as follows:

- Teams may scout a total of fifteen players. An exception to this rule is that teams with three or more picks in the first 40 picks of the draft may scout twenty players.
- Internationals can't be scouted
- Teams may scout each player's ratings fifteen times. The way this works is that owners pick which rating categories (o-o/d-o/p-o/t-o/o-d/d-d/p-d/t-d/2ga/2g%/fta/fg%/3ga/3g%/orb/drb/ast/stl/to/blk) they want to scout, with the information they receive being a range in which the player's actual value for that rating falls. An individual rating may be scouted up to three times, with each time counting for one of the fifteen scouting opportunities and each scout leading to a smaller range of values in which the player's actual rating falls. Here's an example:

(What gets sent to me)
Player to scout #1: Joe Player
Ratings to scout: o-o (x2), d-o (x2), o-d (x2), d-d, t-d, 3ga (x3), blk (x2), 2ga, 2g%

(What you get back)
o-o: 5
d-o: 5
o-d: 7
d-d: 5-7
t-d: 6-8
3ga: 46
blk: 55-59
2ga: 30-44
2g%: 39-53

I ask that the PMs I receive for scouting have "Scouting: Seattle Supersonics" (with your team's city and name) in the subject so as to allow me to keep track of things better.

- Scouting two times for o-o/d-o/o-d/d-d/etc. will give you the actual value for that rating. For the specific stat category ratings (2ga/2g%/etc.), scouting two times will give you a range of 5 in which the actual rating value falls. Scouting three times will give you the actual rating.

Hopefully that was straightforward enough. Ask questions if you have to, I can answer them.

Owners can (but do not need to) make a "big board" for their team that ranks anywhere from 2 to 58 players. This way, if you are not present when draft picks are being made, I can make a pick for you based on your existing rankings. If a big board is not in place, I will look at who the highest rated player still available is (from the top down on the grades spreadsheet - internationals are autopicked last) and select that player for the team. Big boards should be PMed to my inbox when completed, just as scouting lists should be.

I'll remind you to pay attention to how many scouting points get you what - I try to get back to you if I see something wrong, but I make no promises that I'll do so if I'm in a hurry/swamped with scouting.

I don't always read PMs right away, so if you have a question or something pressing that you're including with your scouting you should make a note of it in the PM title. The following teams can't scout this draft class due to being over the "hard cap" this season:

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Cleveland
Denver
LA Clippers
LA Lakers
Portland
St. Louis

**BlakeJesus** · 08-31-2012, 11:46 PM

I really want to see what Scates ratings look like.

**King Joseus** · 09-01-2012, 06:08 AM

Tentative deadlines added. Unlikely to change, but possible.

**Dornado** · 09-01-2012, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BlakeJesus

I really want to see what Scates ratings look like.

You and me both.

**King Joseus** · 09-01-2012, 06:37 AM

I'll be getting started on scouting shortly. I've also moved the draft up half an hour. The sooner you send scouting in, the sooner you get it back.

**King Joseus** · 09-04-2012, 02:04 AM

I will not send back scouting that comes in after the deadline. Get it in if you haven't done so yet.

**Porn Player** · 09-04-2012, 02:06 AM

Can't wait for the draft.

**King Joseus** · 09-05-2012, 03:10 AM

Draft will run as usual. Five minute clock in round one, two minute clock in round two. That is not a long time. Trades need to come in before time runs out for them to go through.

I will not be able to "red out" selected players as I normally do during drafts. I currently have a couple of big boards. If you intend to make use of a big board, get it in sooner rather than later. At a certain point, I stop looking at BBF and just focus on the draft. If you send in a big board really close to the draft, there's no guarantee that I'll see it.

**King Joseus** · 09-05-2012, 03:20 AM

Hmm. Maybe I will be able to update the spreadsheet as we go. It's working now.

**Porn Player** · 09-05-2012, 03:26 AM

You'll have to use my big board as the draft time isn't conducive to my participation.

No biggy, just didn't want you waiting around 5 minutes for me.

**Dissonance** · 09-05-2012, 03:16 PM

Chat up.

**Dissonance** · 09-05-2012, 03:16 PM

Round 1

1. Chicago Bulls - SF Phil Scates
2. Houston Rockets - SF Jude Parker
3. San Antonio Spurs - PG Mikel Opoku
4. Detroit Pistons - PF Roderick Phillips
5. Detroit Pistons (via Boston) - C Linas Mulroney
6. Milwaukee Bucks - PF Mario Rogic
7. Minnesota Timberwolves - PF Rafa Salvadores
8. Miami Heat (via Utah, via New Orleans) - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores
9. Miami Heat (via Québec) - SF Leroy Michaels rights traded to Detroit
10. Orlando Magic - PF Adam Little
11. Orlando Magic (via Oklahoma City) - PG Dennis Merrimac
12. Los Angeles Clippers (via Boston, via Portland) - PF Liam Thomas
13. Utah Jazz (via Miami, via LA Clippers) - SG Todd Collins
14. San Antonio Spurs (via New York) - PF Wallace Washington
15. Detroit Pistons (via London)- SG Willis Bulloch
16. Detroit Pistons (via Denver) - SF Michael Borden
17. Utah Jazz - PG Carlton James
18. Utah Jazz (via Seattle) SG Stan Smith
19. Detroit Pistons (via LA Lakers) - PF Chris Ohlbrecht
20. Philadelphia 76ers (via Portland, via Miami, via Phoenix) - SF Donald Jones
21. Memphis Grizzlies - PG Marlon Hardaway
22. Detroit Pistons (via Vancouver) C Bob West
23. Miami Heat (via Brooklyn) PF Tito Jackson
24. Utah Jazz (via Philadelphia) PF Kevin Salters
25. Philadelphia 76ers (via Portland, via Miami) PG Brian Brown
26. Utah Jazz (via Washington) SG Doug Tinsley
27. Detroit Pistons (via Cleveland) - SG Joe Maltby
28. Detroit Pistons (via St. Louis) - PF Grant Wilms
29. Los Angeles Lakers (via Detroit, via Atlanta) - C James Broadbent

Round 2

30. London Raptors (via Detroit) - SG Henry Tobback
31. San Antonio Spurs - SF Dimitrios Bourousis
32. Houston Rockets - skipped
33. Boston Celtics- skipped
34. Milwaukee Bucks - SF Lindsay Raymond
35. Chicago Bulls - C Bernard Morse
36. Minnesota Timberwolves C Volodymyr Yanukovych
37. Detroit Pistons (via Cleveland, via New Orleans) - PG Karl Koch
38. Orlando Magic - skipped
39. Québec Sharks - skipped
40. London Raptors - C Richard George
41. New York Knicks - Orhan Sönmez
42. Detroit Pistons (via Utah, via Oklahoma City) - PG LeMarcus Aarons
43. Portland Trail Blazers - PG Curtis Evans
44. Chicago Bulls (via LA Clippers) - skipped
45. Denver Nuggets - SG Lamar Kendricks
46. Seattle SuperSonics - C William Malmsteen
47. Utah Jazz - C Al Hilton
48. Phoenix Suns - skipped
49. Los Angeles Lakers - skipped
50. Memphis Grizzlies -SG Connor Riggleman
51. Vancouver Lions - skipped
52. Brooklyn Nets - skipped
53. Philadelphia 76ers - skipped
54. Miami Heat - skipped
55. Washington Bullets - skipped
56. Cleveland Cavaliers - skipped
57. St. Louis Warriors - skipped
58. Utah Jazz (via Detroit, via Atlanta) - Dillon Bailey

scdn · 09-05-2012, 04:02 PM

Wallace Washington twice?

**Dissonance** · 09-05-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by scdn

Wallace Washington twice?

No

scdn · 09-05-2012, 04:28 PM

Love my draft. Excited to see the ratings.

08-31-2012, 11:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 16,788 Rep Power: 12803037	Re: KVBL 2024 Rookies (Scouting is on!; Deadline/Draft TBA) I really want to see what Scates ratings look like. __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

09-01-2012, 06:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
King Joseus Are You Ready Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,412 Rep Power: 9733001	Re: KVBL 2024 Rookies (Scouting is on!; Deadline Tue @ 7PM/Draft Wed @ 7PM) Tentative deadlines added. Unlikely to change, but possible. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

09-01-2012, 06:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
King Joseus Are You Ready Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,412 Rep Power: 9733001	Re: KVBL 2024 Rookies (Scouting is on!; Deadline Tue @ 7PM/Draft Wed @ 6:30PM) I'll be getting started on scouting shortly. I've also moved the draft up half an hour. The sooner you send scouting in, the sooner you get it back. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

09-04-2012, 02:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
King Joseus Are You Ready Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,412 Rep Power: 9733001	Re: KVBL 2024 Rookies (Scouting is on!; Deadline Tue @ 7PM/Draft Wed @ 6:30PM) I will not send back scouting that comes in after the deadline. Get it in if you haven't done so yet. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

09-04-2012, 02:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Porn Player Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jolly Ingerland.. Age: 25 Posts: 26,005 Rep Power: 21474873	Can't wait for the draft. __________________

09-05-2012, 03:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
King Joseus Are You Ready Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,412 Rep Power: 9733001	Re: KVBL 2024 Rookies (Draft Wednesday @ 6:30PM) Draft will run as usual. Five minute clock in round one, two minute clock in round two. That is not a long time. Trades need to come in before time runs out for them to go through. I will not be able to "red out" selected players as I normally do during drafts. I currently have a couple of big boards. If you intend to make use of a big board, get it in sooner rather than later. At a certain point, I stop looking at BBF and just focus on the draft. If you send in a big board really close to the draft, there's no guarantee that I'll see it. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

09-05-2012, 03:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
King Joseus Are You Ready Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,412 Rep Power: 9733001	Re: KVBL 2024 Rookies (Draft Wednesday @ 6:30PM) Hmm. Maybe I will be able to update the spreadsheet as we go. It's working now. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

09-05-2012, 03:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
Porn Player Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jolly Ingerland.. Age: 25 Posts: 26,005 Rep Power: 21474873	You'll have to use my big board as the draft time isn't conducive to my participation. No biggy, just didn't want you waiting around 5 minutes for me. __________________

09-05-2012, 03:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dissonance Super Bowl Champs Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 44,828 Rep Power: 16893179	Re: KVBL 2024 Rookies (Draft Wednesday @ 6:30PM) Chat up.

09-05-2012, 03:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Dissonance Super Bowl Champs Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 44,828 Rep Power: 16893179	Re: KVBL 2024 Rookies (Draft Wednesday @ 6:30PM) Round 1 1. Chicago Bulls - SF Phil Scates 2. Houston Rockets - SF Jude Parker 3. San Antonio Spurs - PG Mikel Opoku 4. Detroit Pistons - PF Roderick Phillips 5. Detroit Pistons (via Boston) - C Linas Mulroney 6. Milwaukee Bucks - PF Mario Rogic 7. Minnesota Timberwolves - PF Rafa Salvadores 8. Miami Heat (via Utah, via New Orleans) - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores 9. Miami Heat (via Québec) - SF Leroy Michaels rights traded to Detroit 10. Orlando Magic - PF Adam Little 11. Orlando Magic (via Oklahoma City) - PG Dennis Merrimac 12. Los Angeles Clippers (via Boston, via Portland) - PF Liam Thomas 13. Utah Jazz (via Miami, via LA Clippers) - SG Todd Collins 14. San Antonio Spurs (via New York) - PF Wallace Washington 15. Detroit Pistons (via London)- SG Willis Bulloch 16. Detroit Pistons (via Denver) - SF Michael Borden 17. Utah Jazz - PG Carlton James 18. Utah Jazz (via Seattle) SG Stan Smith 19. Detroit Pistons (via LA Lakers) - PF Chris Ohlbrecht 20. Philadelphia 76ers (via Portland, via Miami, via Phoenix) - SF Donald Jones 21. Memphis Grizzlies - PG Marlon Hardaway 22. Detroit Pistons (via Vancouver) C Bob West 23. Miami Heat (via Brooklyn) PF Tito Jackson 24. Utah Jazz (via Philadelphia) PF Kevin Salters 25. Philadelphia 76ers (via Portland, via Miami) PG Brian Brown 26. Utah Jazz (via Washington) SG Doug Tinsley 27. Detroit Pistons (via Cleveland) - SG Joe Maltby 28. Detroit Pistons (via St. Louis) - PF Grant Wilms 29. Los Angeles Lakers (via Detroit, via Atlanta) - C James Broadbent Round 2 30. London Raptors (via Detroit) - SG Henry Tobback 31. San Antonio Spurs - SF Dimitrios Bourousis 32. Houston Rockets - skipped 33. Boston Celtics- skipped 34. Milwaukee Bucks - SF Lindsay Raymond 35. Chicago Bulls - C Bernard Morse 36. Minnesota Timberwolves C Volodymyr Yanukovych 37. Detroit Pistons (via Cleveland, via New Orleans) - PG Karl Koch 38. Orlando Magic - skipped 39. Québec Sharks - skipped 40. London Raptors - C Richard George 41. New York Knicks - Orhan Sönmez 42. Detroit Pistons (via Utah, via Oklahoma City) - PG LeMarcus Aarons 43. Portland Trail Blazers - PG Curtis Evans 44. Chicago Bulls (via LA Clippers) - skipped 45. Denver Nuggets - SG Lamar Kendricks 46. Seattle SuperSonics - C William Malmsteen 47. Utah Jazz - C Al Hilton 48. Phoenix Suns - skipped 49. Los Angeles Lakers - skipped 50. Memphis Grizzlies -SG Connor Riggleman 51. Vancouver Lions - skipped 52. Brooklyn Nets - skipped 53. Philadelphia 76ers - skipped 54. Miami Heat - skipped 55. Washington Bullets - skipped 56. Cleveland Cavaliers - skipped 57. St. Louis Warriors - skipped 58. Utah Jazz (via Detroit, via Atlanta) - Dillon Bailey Last edited by King Joseus; 09-05-2012 at 04:53 PM.

09-05-2012, 04:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
scdn History will repeat after 20 years Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,529 Rep Power: 1626404	Re: KVBL 2024 Rookies (Draft Wednesday @ 6:30PM) Wallace Washington twice? __________________ KVBL Owner, San Antonio Spurs Quincy McCall/Bo Roberts Mikel Opoku/Willie Worsley Norberto Rosas Harry Kingsley Casey Schuler/Richard Osborn

09-05-2012, 04:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
scdn History will repeat after 20 years Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,529 Rep Power: 1626404	Re: KVBL 2024 Rookies (Draft Wednesday @ 6:30PM) Love my draft. Excited to see the ratings. __________________ KVBL Owner, San Antonio Spurs Quincy McCall/Bo Roberts Mikel Opoku/Willie Worsley Norberto Rosas Harry Kingsley Casey Schuler/Richard Osborn

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