KVBL 3.0 Season 12 Discussion (Atlanta Hawks - 2027 Champions) - Page 43 - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

**King Joseus** · 11-25-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by fsecreast

What's the cap set at?

$66M

**BlakeJesus** · 11-25-2012, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by omer51

so Travere Bernard + Frank Daniels + Jim Doggerty for Stauffer + Brooks Melvin + Griffin Langston is 100-110% return valuse? c'mon stop the crap. Porn has the worst offers all over KVBL, although he sometimes gets lucky like the trades with Roturn and Ben in KVBL 2.

Depends how you value the players. I like Frank Daniels more than Stauffer, though I understand how it can be viewed the other way. Brooks Melvin is a young interesting prospect, but I mean his actual production is never going to be very much. He has a very specific skillset, he's like a more talented version of Antwaan Jack but shoots even less, and I cannot be rational on Langston because I dislike players like him very much whereas I enjoy players like Travere very much.

I don't think that's a great trade for YOU because your team is routinely bad so adding quality vets isn't on your agenda, but I think in the right situation that's a trade that might propel a team into the playoffs from a 9-10 seed. If that's not your goal though, then it doesn't look appealing in the slightest because of the age differential. So yes, I would say that's Porn trying to squeeze out every last ounce of value.

**King Joseus** · 11-25-2012, 08:45 AM

Finally sleep time. Productive weekend for me, think I did well to get a lot of stuff done (three mocks, lots of stats). I always try to get the stats and such out when I can since I know people like to see 'em and I have much easier access to that than the rest of you. If anybody has requests for certain stats or things, ask for it and I'll see what I can do. I might not be able to do everything, but there's plenty I can.

All-time stuff for players/teams can be real interesting, I like to work those in when I can.

**BlakeJesus** · 11-25-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by King Joseus

It's a conspiracy because I hate Smath, GOBJ. Duh.

Smath · 11-25-2012, 08:48 AM

Haha tnx BJ =] If your Hawks weren't so dominiating I would probably get more then 1 champ as well , as most of my playoffs knockouts in KVBL 3.0 were by your Hawks hehe.

**Goulet** · 11-25-2012, 08:50 AM

I'd like to request an alltime records thread. I know u had single game before.

Like most PPG for single game and season etc.

Would be fun to see those.

**King Joseus** · 11-25-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Goulet

I'd like to request an alltime records thread. I know u had single game before.

Like most PPG for single game and season etc.

Would be fun to see those.

I can do that. I'll get on it tomorrow maybe. One last day before I enter offseason hell (draft, UFA sheet, getting sim file ready for next season), think I can get it done then.

Smath · 11-25-2012, 08:54 AM

my next goal is to pass the Celtics and be the 2nd best franchise!

omer51 · 11-25-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BlakeJesus

Depends how you value the players. I like Frank Daniels more than Stauffer, though I understand how it can be viewed the other way. Brooks Melvin is a young interesting prospect, but I mean his actual production is never going to be very much. He has a very specific skillset, he's like a more talented version of Antwaan Jack but shoots even less, and I cannot be rational on Langston because I dislike players like him very much whereas I enjoy players like Travere very much.

I don't think that's a great trade for YOU because your team is routinely bad so adding quality vets isn't on your agenda, but I think in the right situation that's a trade that might propel a team into the playoffs from a 9-10 seed. If that's not your goal though, then it doesn't look appealing in the slightest because of the age differential. So yes, I would say that's Porn trying to squeeze out every last ounce of value.

I'm sure that 90% of the GMs don't agree with you...

Kidd · 11-25-2012, 09:20 AM

Jermaine Jackson for the 10th overall lmao...

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fsecreast · 11-25-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Smath

my next goal is to pass the Celtics and be the 2nd best franchise!

Good luck. Celtics are back baby. 50 wins next year.

especially when I land Caramel in UFA.

fsecreast · 11-25-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kidd

Jermaine Jackson for the 10th overall lmao...

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And yes that's a real offer he publicly tried to defend. Ridiculous.

awaywehappened · 11-25-2012, 09:32 AM

Meh. New age in Pistons history...

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**Porn Player** · 11-25-2012, 10:12 AM

We'll wait and see who the 10th pick nets and then you can all mock me.

I've done the scouting, this draft is poor in terms of talent that can get in and contribute right away, something JJ can definitely do.

fsecreast · 11-25-2012, 11:40 AM

Jermaine Jackson is terrible. He's an OK backup. He's 28 years old so he's only getting worse from here. You're telling me you'd rather have that then a top ten rookie who, even if he isn't good, has six to eight years of progressions to surpass Jermaine?

I can't believe you even defend some of your offers.

11-25-2012, 08:45 AM	#633 (permalink)
King Joseus Are You Ready Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,467 Rep Power: 9733002	Re: KVBL 3.0 Season 12 Discussion (Atlanta Hawks - 2027 Champions) Finally sleep time. Productive weekend for me, think I did well to get a lot of stuff done (three mocks, lots of stats). I always try to get the stats and such out when I can since I know people like to see 'em and I have much easier access to that than the rest of you. If anybody has requests for certain stats or things, ask for it and I'll see what I can do. I might not be able to do everything, but there's plenty I can. All-time stuff for players/teams can be real interesting, I like to work those in when I can. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

11-25-2012, 08:48 AM	#635 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,085 Rep Power: 344832	Re: KVBL 3.0 Season 12 Discussion (Atlanta Hawks - 2027 Champions) Haha tnx BJ =] If your Hawks weren't so dominiating I would probably get more then 1 champ as well , as most of my playoffs knockouts in KVBL 3.0 were by your Hawks hehe. __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum

11-25-2012, 08:50 AM	#636 (permalink)
Goulet The Master Of Panic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Posts: 3,060 Rep Power: 915585	Re: KVBL 3.0 Season 12 Discussion (Atlanta Hawks - 2027 Champions) I'd like to request an alltime records thread. I know u had single game before. Like most PPG for single game and season etc. Would be fun to see those. __________________

11-25-2012, 08:54 AM	#638 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,085 Rep Power: 344832	Re: KVBL 3.0 Season 12 Discussion (Atlanta Hawks - 2027 Champions) my next goal is to pass the Celtics and be the 2nd best franchise! __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum

11-25-2012, 09:32 AM	#643 (permalink)
awaywehappened KVBL's Worst GM Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,632 Rep Power: 0	Meh. New age in Pistons history... Sent from my iPhone using Verticalsports.com Free App __________________ 2031 KVBL Champions: Detroit Pistons (awaywehappened) Lineup - PG Brian Brown \| SG Quandre Clowney \| SF James Russell \| PF Lewis Barker \| C Alistair Maynard \| 6th man SG Osmosis Clearwater Finals MVP: James Russell

11-25-2012, 10:12 AM	#644 (permalink)
Porn Player Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jolly Ingerland.. Age: 25 Posts: 26,078 Rep Power: 21474873	Re: KVBL 3.0 Season 12 Discussion (Atlanta Hawks - 2027 Champions) We'll wait and see who the 10th pick nets and then you can all mock me. I've done the scouting, this draft is poor in terms of talent that can get in and contribute right away, something JJ can definitely do. __________________

11-25-2012, 11:40 AM	#645 (permalink)
fsecreast Star Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 2,941 Rep Power: 234297	Re: KVBL 3.0 Season 12 Discussion (Atlanta Hawks - 2027 Champions) Jermaine Jackson is terrible. He's an OK backup. He's 28 years old so he's only getting worse from here. You're telling me you'd rather have that then a top ten rookie who, even if he isn't good, has six to eight years of progressions to surpass Jermaine? I can't believe you even defend some of your offers.

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