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scdn · 12-21-2012, 04:39 AM

Some of those guys stayed on for years after they stopped being signed or not playing.

scdn · 12-21-2012, 04:40 AM

Dwight lives on too! Who will be the last real player to retire?

MemphisX · 12-21-2012, 05:25 AM

See you at the ring ceremony Mr. Andrews!

Wade - 25 years...damn!

**BlakeJesus** · 12-21-2012, 06:00 AM

Man I didn't realize Wade was still in the KVBL, how close was he to Steve Nash territory?

**Dornado** · 12-21-2012, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by King Joseus

The records/all-time stats are updated already. HOF I might do this offseason or might wait until after next. I do need to add this year's draft to that history thread, but otherwise those things are up to date. Gotta get the UFA sheet done before I do anything else.

Are there a minimum number of games that Scates/Node need to play to get on the all-time career scoring/rebounding average lists?

**King Joseus** · 12-21-2012, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by King Joseus

Weird to see Andrews and Spinks go, but they've been around for a long time. They were drafted in 2011!

Andrews ends up with a career line of 18.3 PPG, 5.9 RPG, 1.8 APG, 1.2 SPG, 0.5 BPG, 1.5 TO/G on 47%/33.6%/80.7% in 31 MPG (946 games). Two time champion, three time All-Star.

Spinks ends at 16.5 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 0.4 APG, 0.5 SPG, 2.1 BPG, 1.9 TO/G on 54.2%/75.8% in 33.4 MPG (941 games). Two time champion.

Those stats, of course, leave out anything from before 3.0 started (a few good seasons for each).

I should be doing the UFA sheet, but I couldn't resist looking into this more given how long these guys have been around. I also went back and added Zvonko to the mix...Bron too. These numbers are not official (only 3.0 records are going to be recognized, but this gives you the full view of their KVBL careers...although even some of the 3.0 numbers are estimates):

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Jerry Andrews
24,790 Points, 18.4 PPG
8,114 Rebounds, 6.0 RPG
2,708 Assists, 2.0 APG
1,617 Steals, 1.2 SPG
754 Blocks, 0.6 BPG
2102 TOs, 1.6 TO/G
47.4% Career FG%
79.9% Career FT%
34.4% Career 3G%
1,348 Games

Total points is closest to Patrick Ewing, #21 all time, for NBA comparison

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Louis Spinks
21,680 Points, 16.4 PPG
11,341 Rebounds, 8.6 RPG
569 Assists, 0.4 APG
664 Steals, 0.5 SPG
2,886 Blocks, 2.2 BPG
2,789 TOs, 2.1 TO/G
54.5% Career FG%
73.8% Career FT%
1,326 Games

Between Larry Bird and Hal Greer, #34/#35 all time, for points total
Between Elgin Baylor and Dolph Schayes, #26/#27 all time, for rebounds total

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Zvonko Rukovina
25,582 Points, 24.4 PPG
8,787 Rebounds, 8.4 RPG
2,595 Assists, 2.5 APG
1,773 Steals, 1.7 SPG
1,927 Blocks, 1.8 BPG
1,347 TOs, 1.3 TO/G
44.5% Career FG% (45% of FGA was 3GA)
89.3% Career FT%
41.6% Career 3G%
1,048 Games

Closest to Alex English, #16 all time, for total points
Same number of blocks as KG right now, #22 all time
3,769 3GM would easily be #1 all time (3.0 total would be #3 all time by itself)

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LeBron James
33,116 Points, 25.3 PPG
8,081 Rebounds, 6.2 RPG
7,203 Assists, 5.5 APG
2,750 Steals, 2.1 SPG
1,223 Blocks, 0.9 BPG
3,322 TOs, 2.5 TO/G
46.5% Career FG%
76.2% Career FT%
31.6% Career 3G%
1,307 Games

Total point would be #3 all time
3GM would be #3 all time

For fun, because LeBron is real and all, I added his career totals in the NBA from the seven seasons he played prior to the KVBL 2.0/3.0 timeline to his KVBL totals:

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LeBron James (NBA + KVBL)
48,367 Points, 26.1 PPG
11,942 Rebounds, 6.4 RPG
11,013 Assists, 5.9 APG
3,705 Steals, 2.0 SPG
1,705 Blocks, 0.9 BPG
5,124 TOs, 2.8 TO/G
46.8% Career FG%
75.6% Career FT%
31.9% Career 3G%
1,855 Games

#1 in Points, Steals, TOs, Games
#24 in Rebounds
#3 in Assists
#26 in Blocks

doctordrizzay's heaven right there. That would include 4 championships and 2 Finals MVPs from KVBL as well.

Yeah, I should've been doing the UFA sheet, but once I started on this I couldn't stop.

I'll tackle the UFA sheet tomorrow in between my classes, should have it up without too much of a terrible delay.

**King Joseus** · 12-21-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BlakeJesus

Man I didn't realize Wade was still in the KVBL, how close was he to Steve Nash territory?

He was 45 this past season, but hadn't played since 2023.

**King Joseus** · 12-21-2012, 06:48 AM

The good news on that stat silliness above is that I have a template saved for any future 2.0/3.0 guys so I can more quickly come up with those numbers for those that I feel deserve it.

**King Joseus** · 12-21-2012, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by King Joseus

Yeah, I should've been doing the UFA sheet, but once I started on this I couldn't stop.

If anybody still believed in my sanity, this probably should be the turning point. My official statement is the same as Albert's in this commercial (hoping my trusting this YouTube video that I haven't actually watched due to firewall here is what it's supposed to be):

Guys! I'm not a machine, okay? I'm just KJ.

Why didn't you eliminate them, KJ?

Yeah, it's sleep time.

Smath · 12-21-2012, 07:09 AM

Andrews didn't get HoF ? looks like a HoF to me =]

**King Joseus** · 12-21-2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Smath

Andrews didn't get HoF ? looks like a HoF to me =]

If that's based on the 24K points total numbers, that includes 2.0....also, HOF isn't determined until TC.

Now I'm actually going to bed.

**RollWithEm** · 12-21-2012, 07:17 AM

Those combined Lebron stats you posted are not completely out of the realm of possibility for his real career.

Zei_Zao_LS · 12-21-2012, 09:29 AM

He's built like Karl Malone, if he holds up like him it's possible.

MemphisX · 12-21-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Smath

Andrews didn't get HoF ? looks like a HoF to me =]

Spent his prime playing for Alf, so not much winning or many All Star games.

**Dissonance** · 12-21-2012, 11:12 AM

Meh. He seems like a classic case of Hall of Very Good. But I'd have stricter allowances. Similar to NFL.

12-21-2012, 04:39 AM	#646 (permalink)
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12-21-2012, 05:25 AM	#648 (permalink)
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Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,039 Rep Power: 344832	Re: KVBL 3.0 Season 13 Discussion (Los Angeles Clippers - 2028 Champions) Andrews didn't get HoF ? looks like a HoF to me =] __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum

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