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Zei_Zao_LS · 01-22-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Porn Player

Osmosis looks great. Munroe not so much.

The euro talent was high as expected.

Thanks Omer - I really wanted Hal Cross but Irvin Greene was my other main target.

Who ended up with Minghes?

I disagree thoroughly on Monroe, Monroe looks like a solid 22-23 PPG, 7-8 RPG, 4-5 APG, 2-2.5 SPG guy with very solid defense. His turnover rate is bad, we knew that going in, but I'd contest that he's the best player in the draft.

If history tells us anything, it's that PG's around 47 2G%, 36 3G% will shoot around 40 FG% and 30 3G%, and I don't think it's unsafe to assume that Osmosis will end up somewhere around that 40 2G% area. (Especially with only 6-6 o-o/d-o) So he'll put up around 12-13 PPG on 12-13 shots per game, which is definitely nothing to ride home about. Now, aside from that, he has a very nice all around game, and should be good for 6-7 rebounds and 6-7 assists, plus depending on foul rate could be good for up to 2ish stls/blocks, which is really unique from a PG. He has a very solid all around game and there is definitely a case to be made for him being the best player in the draft.

But Buford, with the right progressions, should end up as a high end scorer who also, lest you forget, has a very nice all around game as well, getting an above average amount of rebounds and assists at the SG/SF position, and his offensive 1-9's are very well rounded with 5-7-6-5, most defenses have a weakness in at least one of those categories at one of their wing spots, and he can be flipped around to wherever he matches up best for the playoffs.

Aside from that, we also know that TO is one of the few stats that you can consistently rely on to get better for pretty much every player year after year, so while that 8 looks ugly, it looked just as ugly when Caramel had it, and when Rhett had it for that matter.

For my money, I'd rather have Buford if I was in Tim's position. And in Nooby's position, for that matter. Osmosis is the kind of player that if you add him to an established contender who needs a PG he could put them over the edge, whereas Buford is the kind of player that if you add him to a low lotto team he could drag them to the playoffs.

**Porn Player** · 01-22-2013, 02:24 PM

Great rant. I thought Munroe was a big man, and I was definitely wrong. Looks really good as a wing, ha.

**El Shaqtus** · 01-22-2013, 02:27 PM

The only position I had a player in pre-draft was PG.

I'm kinda simple like that.

**El Shaqtus** · 01-22-2013, 02:28 PM

For second rounders:

Kings give 4 years to Heron and cut David Hughes.

Smath · 01-22-2013, 02:35 PM

overall player , I think Osmosis is better right now , ofcorse team needs comes into play as well , btw your looking at Osmosis all worng Zei , hes a SG not a PG.

**BlakeJesus** · 01-22-2013, 02:56 PM

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I really like Mahoney and think he's going to be a great piece for Atlanta but I like the level of shot blocking Cross brings to the table. His rebounding is better than a lot of people said, but I'm still hoping it improves over the next few seasons.

Plus I love me some Senghor. One of my favorite players in the sim.

I think that trade will work out well for both of us. Mahoney is everything I want from my starting center, he's definitely got some Weiland in him. Gives me a guy to build around going forward. Cleared some cap room and Moncova is a solid player who is a flippable asset.

You get a stud shotblocker and Senghor is criminally underestimated by some GM's. He is a nice fit with Sandow and the rookie PG.

**El Shaqtus** · 01-22-2013, 03:01 PM

Boston/Atlanta trade worked out well.

Both guys get what they want.

fsecreast · 01-22-2013, 03:07 PM

I think the foul rates of each guy also plays a factor. Hopefully neither are too bad.

awaywehappened · 01-22-2013, 04:35 PM

4 years for Milenkov.

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**BlakeJesus** · 01-22-2013, 07:47 PM

Cut my 2nd rounder

MemphisX · 01-22-2013, 08:08 PM

I like Vikingsson better than them all.

**Prince** · 01-22-2013, 10:10 PM

4 years for Edsel.

**Dissonance** · 01-22-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MemphisX

I like Vikingsson better than them all.

Me too.

Roturn · 01-23-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dissonance

Me too.

Same here. But I need to wait 2 years for him...Will he have stat changes in these 2 years?

MemphisX · 01-23-2013, 12:20 AM

He will progress like the rest of the rookies except he won't be closer to his extension.

01-22-2013, 02:24 PM	#47 (permalink)
Porn Player Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jolly Ingerland.. Age: 25 Posts: 26,500 Rep Power: 21474873	Great rant. I thought Munroe was a big man, and I was definitely wrong. Looks really good as a wing, ha. __________________

01-22-2013, 02:27 PM	#48 (permalink)
El Shaqtus KVBL's Resident Old Fart Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Louis Metro Posts: 6,571 Rep Power: 1819770	Re: NEW KVBL 2029 Rookies (2nd Round Contracts - Deadline Sun @ 7AM) The only position I had a player in pre-draft was PG. I'm kinda simple like that. __________________ Mom, thanks for everything. RIP Coach Rick Majerus 12/1/12. You were the one that said it was OK to think big at SLU. You were right. KVBL Lexington Kings 2023 KVBL Champions: St. Louis Warriors (El Shaqtus) 2026 KVBL First Loser 2013 BBBL First Loser

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El Shaqtus KVBL's Resident Old Fart Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Louis Metro Posts: 6,571 Rep Power: 1819770	Re: NEW KVBL 2029 Rookies (2nd Round Contracts - Deadline Sun @ 7AM) Boston/Atlanta trade worked out well. Both guys get what they want. __________________ Mom, thanks for everything. RIP Coach Rick Majerus 12/1/12. You were the one that said it was OK to think big at SLU. You were right. KVBL Lexington Kings 2023 KVBL Champions: St. Louis Warriors (El Shaqtus) 2026 KVBL First Loser 2013 BBBL First Loser

01-22-2013, 03:07 PM	#53 (permalink)
fsecreast Star Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 3,139 Rep Power: 234298	Re: NEW KVBL 2029 Rookies (2nd Round Contracts - Deadline Sun @ 7AM) I think the foul rates of each guy also plays a factor. Hopefully neither are too bad.

01-22-2013, 04:35 PM	#54 (permalink)
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01-22-2013, 08:08 PM	#56 (permalink)
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