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**BlakeJesus** · 05-24-2012, 06:08 PM

Those expected standings are crazy. Celtics at 71 and me at 68, East is serious.

**King Joseus** · 05-27-2012, 08:26 PM

#1 offense in the league managed to get better this past sim. I'll take it.

**BlakeJesus** · 05-27-2012, 08:31 PM

Yeah I noticed that we were relatively close last list and now you're substantially ahead of me and I'm about neck and neck with the 76ers.

**King Joseus** · 05-30-2012, 08:28 PM

The dream has come true: #1 offense, #29 defense.

**BlakeJesus** · 05-30-2012, 08:32 PM

6th best offense, 7th best defense. I can live with that.

**Dre** · 06-19-2012, 07:34 PM

"thanks"

**King Joseus** · 06-19-2012, 07:37 PM

Makes players better top ten (15+ mpg):

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Travis Perry - 11.10
Caramel Love - 9.12
Salvatore Fantastigas - 8.81
Russ Tyler - 8.40
Tony Spence - 8.25
Ben Cashman - 7.86
Stefan Dautzenberg - 7.75
Trinnean Telfair - 7.48
Teddy Moss III - 6.93
Tim Henson - 6.89

**King Joseus** · 06-19-2012, 07:49 PM

Rockets' D was as poor as it was this sim due to their inability to stop the three ball and opponents' scoring a lot from the free throw line.

**BlakeJesus** · 06-19-2012, 08:51 PM

Caramel and Tim Henson both up there for "Makes Players Better", that's great. My offense is crazy good right now, small sample size, but still.

**King Joseus** · 06-19-2012, 09:08 PM

Sim's top 50 MVP (15+ mpg)rankings, resorted by APER:

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Caramel Love - 37.56
Dwight Howard - 31.55
Zvonko Rukovina - 29.47
Detlef Landros - 28.87
Aleksandr Matechowski - 28.22
Chris Walker - 27.34
Xerxes Khoroushi - 26.12
Tony Spence - 25.81
Mancin Tulker - 25.22
Clarence Harvey - 24.35
Kevin Durant - 24.11
LeBron James - 23.75
Kong Randolph - 23.7
Frank Weiland - 23.52
Jerry Andrews - 23.4
Lance Prince - 23.17
Travis Perry - 22.85
Alistair Maynard - 22.73
Ricky Briscoe - 22.63
Roger Martin - 22.41
Dre Byers - 22.31
Kristopher Karambo - 22.11
Muratcan Ozer - 21.79
Xie Dong - 21.56
Russell Westbrook - 20.88
Javier Garcia - 20.88
Seven Phoenix - 20.85
Stefan Dautzenberg - 20.75
Louis Spinks - 20.53
Cameron Clothier - 20.34
Jens Larsson - 20.34
James Russell - 20.1
Kenny Bradford - 19.84
Garrett Thomas - 19.61
John Wall - 19.53
Victor Manning - 19.43
Brandan Wright - 19.35
Allan Fisher - 19.25
Ben Cashman - 19.22
Walker Gilchrist - 19.16
Barry Battle - 19.11
Andy Cabrera - 18.93
Gerald Sidell - 18.9
Gerrod Clifton - 18.5
Yaniv Lifshitz - 18.28
Charles Conway - 18.1
Young Hi - 18.06
Nicholas Marshall - 17.82
Tony Lowell - 17.74
Tim Henson - 16.83

There are likely players that'd bump guys out of this top 50, but I'm not going to go through teams looking for 'em.

**Porn Player** · 06-20-2012, 01:00 PM

4/5 Raptor starters. Yeah boy!

**King Joseus** · 06-20-2012, 01:30 PM

List is definitely skewed by games played, since it's based on the sim's MVP ranking which factors that in. Just a quick check shows Chip Fookes (19.65) and Logan Heastie (22.00) belong up there but aren't.

Feeling less tired/annoyed today, going to try to fix up my APER sheet so I can quickly get the ratings for everyone rather than resorting to individual checks.

**King Joseus** · 06-20-2012, 02:20 PM

Got the sheet fixed up, so here's the true APER ranking, including all 198 players that qualify (15+ MPG):

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1. Caramel Love - 37.56
2. Dwight Howard - 31.55
3. Zvonko Rukovina - 29.47
4. Detlef Landros - 28.87
5. Aleksandr Matechowski - 28.22
6. Chris Walker - 27.34
7. Xerxes Khoroushi - 26.12
8. Tony Spence - 25.81
9. Mancin Tulker - 25.22
10. Clarence Harvey - 24.35
11. Kevin Durant - 24.11
12. LeBron James - 23.75
13. Kong Randolph - 23.7
14. Frank Weiland - 23.52
15. Jerry Andrews - 23.4
16. Trinnean Telfair - 23.17
17. Lance Prince - 23.17
18. Ray Lee - 23.11
19. Travis Perry - 22.85
20. Alistair Maynard - 22.73
21. Ricky Briscoe - 22.63
22. Roger Martin - 22.41
23. Dre Byers - 22.31
24. Kristopher Karambo - 22.11
25. Barry Wagner - 22.09
26. Logan Heastie - 22
27. Andre Cannon - 21.82
28. Muratcan Ozer - 21.79
29. Xie Dong - 21.56
30. Salvatore Fantastigas - 21.08
31. Russell Westbrook - 20.88
32. Javier Garcia - 20.88
33. Seven Phoenix - 20.85
34. Stefan Dautzenberg - 20.75
35. Milt Mickelbaum - 20.63
36. Louis Spinks - 20.53
37. Andrew Bynum - 20.51
38. Phillip Vasquez - 20.37
39. Aeneas Bailey - 20.36
40. Jens Larsson - 20.34
41. Cameron Clothier - 20.34
42. Blake Griffin - 20.11
43. James Russell - 20.1
44. Alex Moncova - 20.08
45. Frank Daniels - 20.04
46. Kenny Bradford - 19.84
47. Riley Thurman - 19.7
48. Chip Fookes - 19.65
49. Gregor Lomidze - 19.63
50. Garrett Thomas - 19.61
51. John Wall - 19.53
52. Tyrone Williams - 19.43
53. Victor Manning - 19.43
54. Michael McDonald - 19.39
55. Brandan Wright - 19.35
56. Allan Fisher - 19.25
57. Ben Cashman - 19.22
58. Walker Gilchrist - 19.16
59. Barry Battle - 19.11
60. Ryan Miyagi - 18.97
61. Andy Cabrera - 18.93
62. Gerald Sidell - 18.9
63. Gerrod Clifton - 18.5
64. Greg Oden - 18.28
65. Yaniv Lifshitz - 18.28
66. Charles Conway - 18.1
67. Young Hi - 18.06
68. Freddy Childs - 18
69. Eric Rogers - 17.94
70. Travere Bernard - 17.92
71. Nicholas Marshall - 17.82
72. JaVale McGee - 17.8
73. Tony Lowell - 17.74
74. Ryan Walters - 17.35
75. Tim Jennings - 17.31
76. Donald Cooper - 17.26
77. Benedict Brown - 17.13
78. DeMarcus Cousins - 17.12
79. Milos Novak - 17.01
80. Devin Bishop - 16.95
81. Bobby Banks - 16.87
82. Allan Osyrus - 16.83
83. Tim Henson - 16.83
84. Chad Harrell - 16.73
85. Eddie Green - 16.72
86. Danilo Gallinari - 16.7
87. Glenn Jennings - 16.68
88. Curtis Rhodes - 16.64
89. Kevin Irujo - 16.6
90. Eddy Sweet - 16.53
91. Darren Webb - 16.52
92. Teddy Moss III - 16.39
93. John Spooner - 16.38
94. Ray Irons - 16.34
95. Ray McAllister - 16.32
96. Josh Smith - 16.26
97. Paul George - 16.19
98. Kevin Stewart - 16.18
99. Jericho Gyllenhaal - 16.14
100. Ivanos Rogic - 16.07
101. Tayerone Blackman - 16.02
102. Tyrone Tate - 15.99
103. Arturo Sanz - 15.96
104. Marakov Moncova - 15.91
105. Nicolas English - 15.91
106. Omar Andrews - 15.81
107. Desmond Beasley - 15.77
108. Sam Sagan - 15.65
109. Trevor Gordon - 15.53
110. Henry Torre - 15.46
111. Bart Higgins - 15.46
112. Jeff Papelbon - 15.43
113. Derrick Favors - 15.43
114. Marvin Gordon - 15.37
115. Jim Stauffer - 15.34
116. Jaxon Blake - 15.22
117. Ernie Nielsen - 15.1
118. Alfredo Watkins - 15.09
119. Tim Stallings - 15.06
120. Robert Goodhue - 15.06
121. Dominic Marco - 15.03
122. Gvidas Petrauskas - 14.63
123. Frank Collins - 14.57
124. Clyde Grubbs - 14.42
125. Marc Gasol - 14.31
126. Derrick Rose - 14.18
127. Austin Kessel - 14.04
128. Cory Simmons - 13.98
129. Forest Katz - 13.91
130. Jeremy James - 13.9
131. Marty Peters - 13.89
132. Carlos Junarvo - 13.85
133. Jackson Smith - 13.8
134. Bryan Tyler - 13.8
135. Thibaud Moupegnou - 13.74
136. Matt Avery - 13.71
137. Landon Tyree - 13.55
138. Owen Butler - 13.53
139. Cheikh Senghor - 13.43
140. LeRoy Faulk - 13.29
141. Kwon Hale - 13.29
142. Paul Millsap - 13.28
143. Rich Knight - 13.19
144. Rudy Gay - 13.09
145. James Braddock - 13.08
146. Eric Craft - 13.08
147. Joe Keisel - 12.89
148. Henry Larsgaard - 12.88
149. Warren Graves - 12.81
150. Will Newsome - 12.63
151. Willis Joseph - 12.55
152. Frankreich Doonkmeister - 12.29
153. LeMychal Thomas - 12.1
154. Griffin DeAngelis - 12.08
155. Edd Timmons - 12.05
156. Savoris Salatocianas - 11.9
157. Daniel Sunderhaus - 11.86
158. Ed Lancaster - 11.73
159. Winston Harris - 11.64
160. Daniel Ortega - 11.64
161. Travis Owens - 11.55
162. Eric Gordon - 11.53
163. Kyle Schultze - 11.51
164. CJ Strickland - 11.49
165. Keenan Hammond - 11.47
166. Vontaze Claibourne - 11.29
167. Thomas Vermlarr - 11.15
168. Tyrus Thomas - 11.11
169. Dexter Smythe - 10.96
170. Rick Damen - 10.94
171. Eduardo Corrochio - 10.6
172. Rory Finnegan - 10.55
173. John Uzelli - 10.47
174. Chris Bosh - 10.37
175. Mitch Hastings - 10.33
176. Brock Woodward - 10.23
177. Aaron Moray - 9.87
178. Chadwick Peters - 9.86
179. Nikola Nemanja - 9.71
180. Shane Kersey - 9.67
181. Jadeveon Shepard - 9.64
182. Dan Mayhew - 9.52
183. Emeka Okafor - 9.49
184. Andrew Everett - 9.46
185. Rocky Marvel - 9.29
186. Shaun Jacobs - 9.11
187. Rajon Rondo - 8.96
188. Delmar McFadden - 8.88
189. Chaz Penninton - 8.77
190. Roberto Kasica - 8.75
191. Donny Bell - 8.48
192. Alex Ackerman - 8.36
193. Russ Tyler - 8.25
194. DeAndre Jordan - 7.85
195. Ken Himmins - 7.12
196. Nikolai Koznyshev - 6.62
197. Xavier Ginn - 6.12

omer51 · 06-20-2012, 02:24 PM

what is the formula for true ratings?

**King Joseus** · 06-20-2012, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omer51

what is the formula for true ratings?

It's complicated. Assigns positive values to FGM, STL, 3GM, FTM, BLK, ORB, AST, DRB and negative values to PF, Missed FTs, Missed FGs, and TOs while factoring in minutes played.

05-24-2012, 06:08 PM	#61 (permalink)
BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 16,778 Rep Power: 12803037	Re: Stats Discussion Those expected standings are crazy. Celtics at 71 and me at 68, East is serious. __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

05-27-2012, 08:26 PM	#62 (permalink)
King Joseus Rest In Peace Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,395 Rep Power: 9733001	Re: Stats Discussion #1 offense in the league managed to get better this past sim. I'll take it. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

05-27-2012, 08:31 PM	#63 (permalink)
BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 16,778 Rep Power: 12803037	Re: Stats Discussion Yeah I noticed that we were relatively close last list and now you're substantially ahead of me and I'm about neck and neck with the 76ers. __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

05-30-2012, 08:28 PM	#64 (permalink)
King Joseus Rest In Peace Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,395 Rep Power: 9733001	Re: Stats Discussion The dream has come true: #1 offense, #29 defense. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

05-30-2012, 08:32 PM	#65 (permalink)
BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 16,778 Rep Power: 12803037	Re: Stats Discussion 6th best offense, 7th best defense. I can live with that. __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

06-19-2012, 07:34 PM	#66 (permalink)
Dre do better Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 25 Posts: 41,325 Rep Power: 21474887	Re: Advanced Stats (Season Seven) "thanks"

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King Joseus Rest In Peace Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,395 Rep Power: 9733001	Re: Stats Discussion Rockets' D was as poor as it was this sim due to their inability to stop the three ball and opponents' scoring a lot from the free throw line. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

06-19-2012, 08:51 PM	#69 (permalink)
BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 16,778 Rep Power: 12803037	Re: Stats Discussion Caramel and Tim Henson both up there for "Makes Players Better", that's great. My offense is crazy good right now, small sample size, but still. __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

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06-20-2012, 01:30 PM	#72 (permalink)
King Joseus Rest In Peace Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,395 Rep Power: 9733001	Re: Stats Discussion List is definitely skewed by games played, since it's based on the sim's MVP ranking which factors that in. Just a quick check shows Chip Fookes (19.65) and Logan Heastie (22.00) belong up there but aren't. Feeling less tired/annoyed today, going to try to fix up my APER sheet so I can quickly get the ratings for everyone rather than resorting to individual checks. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

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