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omer51 · 05-06-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryWest

Byers is based off of duncan. Duncan > Durant

mmm... this statement is very arguable... i think that Durant is much more talented then Duncan.

JerryWest · 05-06-2012, 09:39 AM

Like in terms of value, it'd be

Dre Byers
.
.
Eddy Sweet
.
Prince / Gordon
.
The next dozen guys that have write ups

Byers alone is probably worth 3 or 4 guys between pick 5-12. But two Sweets are more valuable than Byers.

JerryWest · 05-06-2012, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by omer51

mmm... this statement is very arguable... i think that Durant is much more talented then Duncan.

Durant is never going to win as many titles as Duncan. He'll be lucky to have half as many.

omer51 · 05-06-2012, 09:45 AM

you can't never know...

**BlakeJesus** · 05-06-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by omer51

mmm... this statement is very arguable... i think that Durant is much more talented then Duncan.

-_-

**Dissonance** · 05-06-2012, 09:47 AM

Scouting can't come soon enough.

Blue · 05-06-2012, 10:02 AM

Oden was compared to Bill Russell and Shaq. Durant still > Oden.

MemphisX · 05-06-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue

Oden was compared to Bill Russell and Shaq. Durant still > Oden.

Compared and actual NBA performance are two different things.

**BlakeJesus** · 05-06-2012, 10:38 AM

My issue with that is, if it wasn't for his glass knees Greg Oden could have been a dominant big man. Nothing to do with a star wing player being better or more valuable than a star big man, it had everything to do with health.

We can't see the injury ratings, so that's not a discussion worth having.

**Dissonance** · 05-06-2012, 10:40 AM

I wouldn't say dominant. A defensive anchor and something 15/12 or that range. Maybe slightly more. His offense was too raw and I don't see him developing much more. He also seemed way too mechanical.

**BlakeJesus** · 05-06-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dissonance

I wouldn't say dominant. A defensive anchor and something 15/12 or that range. Maybe slightly more. His offense was too raw and I don't see him developing much more. He also seemed way too mechanical.

Ok but 15/12 with 3 blocks while anchoring a high leve defense and shooting 55%+ from the field is pretty dominant to me. I guess it depends how you define the word.

He would have been the 2nd best center in the league in a perfect world, so that's saying something.

**Dissonance** · 05-06-2012, 10:49 AM

Oh true. Yeah, it does depend. When I think of dominant I think of more than that. Dominant defensively, or defensive anchor I'd go with.

scdn · 05-06-2012, 11:10 AM

Yeah dominant to me means doing at least 20/10 with 2 blocks.

omer51 · 05-06-2012, 11:24 AM

D12 is the most dominant big in NBA and yet i'll take someone like Durant over him in every case.

**BlakeJesus** · 05-06-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by omer51

D12 is the most dominant big in NBA and yet i'll take someone like Durant over him in every case.

Says a lot more about you than it does about either of the players.

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JerryWest All-Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,394 Rep Power: 2185328	Re: Mock Draft Version 2 Like in terms of value, it'd be Dre Byers . . Eddy Sweet . Prince / Gordon . The next dozen guys that have write ups Byers alone is probably worth 3 or 4 guys between pick 5-12. But two Sweets are more valuable than Byers. __________________ KVBL Basketball Sim, Los Angeles Lakers FRSL, Los Angeles Lakers Season 2 Champs (64-18), Season 4 Champs (66-16), Season 5 Champs (72-10)

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BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 16,850 Rep Power: 12803037	Re: Mock Draft Version 2 My issue with that is, if it wasn't for his glass knees Greg Oden could have been a dominant big man. Nothing to do with a star wing player being better or more valuable than a star big man, it had everything to do with health. We can't see the injury ratings, so that's not a discussion worth having. __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

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Dissonance Super Bowl Champs Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 44,905 Rep Power: 16893179	Re: Mock Draft Version 2 I wouldn't say dominant. A defensive anchor and something 15/12 or that range. Maybe slightly more. His offense was too raw and I don't see him developing much more. He also seemed way too mechanical.

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Dissonance Super Bowl Champs Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 44,905 Rep Power: 16893179	Re: Mock Draft Version 2 Oh true. Yeah, it does depend. When I think of dominant I think of more than that. Dominant defensively, or defensive anchor I'd go with.

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omer51 All-Star Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 6,259 Rep Power: 1391452	Re: Mock Draft Version 2 D12 is the most dominant big in NBA and yet i'll take someone like Durant over him in every case. __________________ FRSL commissioner Sonics

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