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Smath · 12-29-2012, 11:13 AM

-=EAST=-

Quebeq Sharks:

Sharks looks like an elite team to me , deff one of the best in the east , BUT they still give you room to desire more as they have the best offence efficency in the east BUT the worst ball handeling in the east and also bad scoring , on the other side they one of the best in the entire league , best blocking in the east , great deffence , good rebounding , I think that if they improve their ball handeling/scoring abit , they will be very scary.

Team Scores:
Scoring: D-
Offence efficency: A+
Deffence: A-
Stealing: C
Rebounding: B-
Blocking: A+
Ball Handeling: D-

Chicago Bulls:

Bulls are the best deffence/rebounding team in the east , thats the reason they got so much wins , they are also the best defensive team in the league and also the best rebounding team in the east by far (only the Pistons come close) , their lineup is ultra deffensive and Node/Klaus/Scares gives them insane rebounding , with avg slightly less then avg stealing/offence efficency and ball handling it makes them a well balanced and elite team , main weakness will be the bad scoring and the low blocking when they meet good post players.

Team Scores:
Scoring: F
Offence efficency: D+
Deffence: A+
Stealing: C+
Rebounding: A+
Blocking: D
Ball Handeling: D+

Miami Heat:

Heat are just a very well balanced team all over , Heat has good scoring with good efficency along with good ball handling they make 1 of the hardest offensive teams to play against , rebounding is alright , blocking and defence are avg though , Skyler Mclean really hurts this team D and along with alot of TO's those are the main weaknesses of the Heat , they will have a tough time against teams with high stealing that will force alot of TO's on them.

Team Scores:
Scoring: B+
Offence efficency: A-
Deffence: B-
Stealing: A
Rebounding: C+
Blocking: C
Ball Handeling: B+

Detroit Pistons:

Pistons team have alot of potensial but they are everything but a balanced team , they have elite offence efficency and elite rebounding with avg+ ball handling and deffence , but their scoring/stealing/blocking is just bad , if they manage to improve at least 2 of those 3 catagories we might see a contender , but untill then they might catch a low seed playoff spot again.

Team Scores:
Scoring: F-
Offence efficency: A
Deffence: C-
Stealing: F+
Rebounding: A
Blocking: F
Ball Handeling: C-

Philadelphia 76ers:

76'ers are an intersting team , on 1 side they have great offence efficency , good blocking and good ball handeling , but on the other side madicore scoring/deffence/rebouding , not very balanced! they are still young so that is expected , might steal a playoff spot this year because they have great depth , but deff doesn't look like a contender , YET.

Team Scores:
Scoring: C+
Offence efficency: D-
Deffence: F+
Stealing: D+
Rebounding: D-
Blocking: B-
Ball Handeling: B-

Boston Celtics:

When I look at the Celtics I see a very balanced team , with good offence efficency, good stealing/rebounding/blocking , they have what it takes to win alot of games , they are not very bad at ANYTHING , no big weaknesses in that team , I'd say they will only have trouble against high stealing / high off efficency teams , and those are very speific teams.

Team Scores:
Scoring: D
Offence efficency: B
Deffence: D
Stealing: B
Rebounding: B+
Blocking: B+
Ball Handeling: D

New York Knicks:

Knicks deff looking like a winning team this year with bunchy and kewitak back , they have the best stealing in the east BY FAR , with elite blocking/deffence and good ball handling I see them winning alot of games this year , their biggest weakness is their rebounding , they are going to struggle against against good deffensive/rebounding teams.

Team Scores:
Scoring: C-
Offence efficency: D+
Deffence: A
Stealing: A+
Rebounding: F
Blocking: A
Ball Handeling: B

Orlando Magic:

When I look at the Magic I see a balanced team exept the ball handling , if they had better ball handling this team would be very balanced and deff a playoff team , but their bad ball handeling is their main weakness , espically when your one of the best scoring team in the east , everything else is just around avg or abit above avg.

Team Scores:
Scoring: A-
Offence efficency: C-
Deffence: C+
Stealing: B-
Rebounding: D+
Blocking: C-
Ball Handeling: F+

Brooklyn Nets:

Nets are a very solid team , with elite stealing and ball handling , good scoring and blocking , but madicore rebounding/deffence and horrible offence efficency , wich is stoping them from really beeing a contender , probably a playoff spot again this year , but they really need to work on improving some of those catagories.

Team Scores:
Scoring: C
Offence efficency: F
Deffence: D-
Stealing: A-
Rebounding: D
Blocking: C+
Ball Handeling: A

Milwaukee Bucks:

Bucks are obviously one of the best teams in the east , they have the best scoring in the east along with the best ball handeling wich makes 1 killer offence , their deffence and rebounding is very good as well , but their main weakness is their offence efficency , they will struggle against good deffnesive teams like the Sharks and bulls , also their madicore stealing/blocking will make them struggle against very good offensive teams , I guss thats why they had 2 1st round exsits for the last 2 years , maybe they can improve some of those catagories and take the next step.

Team Scores:
Scoring: A+
Offence efficency: F+
Deffence: B+
Stealing: D
Rebounding: B
Blocking: D
Ball Handeling: A+

Atlanta Hawks:

Hawks deff looks like a lotto team to me , they have nice blocking and scoring , not bad at the steals and ball handeling department , but they dre not very good at anything , also their the worst deffensive team in the east , wich means they are going to lose alot of games.

Team Scores:
Scoring: B-
Offence efficency: F-
Deffence: F-
Stealing: C-
Rebounding: C-
Blocking: B
Ball Handeling: C+

London Raptors:

Raptors looks like a 0.500 team to me AT BEST , they are not very balanced , their deffence is good , their offence efficency is good , their blocking is elite , rebounding is ok , but they are the worst ball handeling team in the east and also bad at steals , that will cost them alot of games because they take bad care of the ball and also don't force other teams to take bad care of the ball , other then their bad bad ball handeling though they look nice and balanced , if PP can improve the ball handeling this team can be very good.

Team Scores:
Scoring: D+
Offence efficency: B-
Deffence: B
Stealing: D-
Rebounding: C
Blocking: A-
Ball Handeling: F

Clevland Cavalires:

Cavs are an amuzing team this year , they are actually one of the best offence capable teams in the entire league with great scoring ability and great offence efficency , their D is alright , but the rest of the stuff is just comedy... very bad rebounding/blocking/stealing/ball handeling , infact they are the worst stealing/blocking/ball handeling team in the east , on the bright side they are looking at a top pick in the draft , their offence might steal a few games for them , but I can't see them winning alot.

Team Scores:
Scoring: A
Offence efficency: A-
Deffence: C
Stealing: F-
Rebounding: F+
Blocking: F-
Ball Handeling: F-

Lexington Kings:

Kings deff look like a lotto team to me , great rebounding and ball handeling , but bad all over other places with bad scoring/blocking/stealing with just madicore defence and offence efficency will make sure this team will lose alot of games , probably what timmey is aiming for because he gets back his pick if its top 5.

Team Scores:
Scoring: F+
Offence efficency: D
Deffence: D+
Stealing: F
Rebounding: A-
Blocking: F+
Ball Handeling: A-

Washington Bullets:

Bullets also looks like a lotto team to me , any team with such bad deffence and rebounding would probably be in the lotto , they have nice scoring and good stealing , offence efficency and ball handeling is ok too , they will deff win some games , but not ALOT of em , this team looks like 1-2 moves away from beeing a prefectly balanced team though.

Team Scores:
Scoring: B
Offence efficency: C+
Deffence: F
Stealing: B+
Rebounding: F-
Blocking: D
Ball Handeling: C

Thats it! West will be coming soon.

Smath · 12-29-2012, 11:24 AM

Teams are ofcorse in no praticular order , also the grading system is based on east stats ONLY , wich means these grades will show you where you stand in each catagorie compared to the other east teams and not the entire league.

**El Shaqtus** · 12-29-2012, 11:37 AM

I'm going to be so bad my preview goes for 2 teams

fsecreast · 12-29-2012, 11:47 AM

My scoring and ball handling is a D? Come on now. I had Milt at 8+APG and Jude almost averaged a triple double with assists.

scoring? Weren't you the one afraid of my offense in the playoffs. Saying if the score broke 100 I'd win.

fsecreast · 12-29-2012, 11:48 AM

Also my team shot 49% last year.

Smath · 12-29-2012, 11:50 AM

Geez I knew this will come.

ok 1st of all the grading system is based on your starting 5 , benches are not included AT ALL.
2nd of all you can't argue with the ball handeling , ur combined Ast+TO rating was one of the lowest... you just can't argue with that , its a fact.
about scoring , its 2ga+FTA+3ga combined of your starting 5 , so you can't really aruge about that as well.

Benches ofcorse gives alot of those teams what they lack , but im looking at starting 5's here.

btw - offence efficency is the only catagorie not based on pure raw ratings , so thats the only catagorie you can aruge about

Smath · 12-29-2012, 11:57 AM

btw creast for your info , I just checked my table - your starting 5 have the lowest TO rating combined in the entire east , and your trying to claim your ball handeling is good?

**BlakeJesus** · 12-29-2012, 12:08 PM

I'm a little surprised to see my teams grades at where they are, not that I expected them to be high. I mean...F- in offensive efficiency? That's a little extreme. Ballhandling seems very low too considering my total assist rating between my 5 starters is 154 and my total combined turnover rating is 295. Seems like we have strong passing (balanced too in terms of where it's coming from) with above average TO ratings (Lukas at 54, Cheikh at 78, Pastor at 74...other two guys both at 44). My defense should be below average, but these F-'s are a little silly. Andrews at starting center has a 9 p-d, Lukas and Senghor are solid defenders, and Pastner is average (8 o-d will come in handy vs a few East teams, for example the 76ers with Bridge, the Bucks with Rogic, Klaus for the Bulls). There are only a few teams that really have the guys to abuse Pastner at PF. It's not like LeMychal Thomas (Sharks), Yoruba for the Celtics, Phillips for the Pistons, any of the Nets big rotation, etc. will be pounding on Pastner a few times a year. He'll suffice.

Maybe D or D+, but F-?

Appreciate the work though.

**Porn Player** · 12-29-2012, 12:10 PM

Benches aren't included? 6th men surely need to be considered.

Great write up, really enjoyed it. I might end up inserting Diggs and taking out Rookwell if my current 'scoring' line up doesn't work out.

Thanks for the work Smath.

Smath · 12-29-2012, 12:11 PM

BJ like I said , your ranked 7th in the east out of 15 teams in Ast+TO combined rating , 7th = C+

offence efficency is the only thing guys could aruge on cause its not based on pure raw ratings.

Smath · 12-29-2012, 12:23 PM

oh and about your D BJ , you have 99 combined 1-9's between your starting 5 , thats the lowest in the east. therefore F-

try to understand the grading here... some one can have 104 1-9 D's and get F+ and some one on 108 will get B- , sometimes the gaps between teams are not big , this grading is just comparing your team to other teams in the east.

**BlakeJesus** · 12-29-2012, 12:29 PM

Just using raw combined numbers is a less than ideal grading system in terms of 1-9's. It's not only about having high 1-9's, but having appropriately placed 1-9's through your positions.

**El Shaqtus** · 12-29-2012, 12:31 PM

Really suprised my rebounding was that high. I saw that as a negative on my team after Andrews.

**BlakeJesus** · 12-29-2012, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Shaqtus

Really suprised my rebounding was that high. I saw that as a negative on my team after Andrews.

Him ignoring bench players plays a big part in that too I would imagine.

Smath · 12-29-2012, 12:50 PM

It took several hours to put as it is

diffrent bench players play diffrent min's its just impossible to count it in sorry :/ in playoffs though your starting 5's play most of the times , so the grading is pretty accurate =]

+ teams can look at this and know what they are looking for in bench guys , what their starting 5's are lacking =]

12-29-2012, 11:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,076 Rep Power: 344832	KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) -=EAST=- Quebeq Sharks: Sharks looks like an elite team to me , deff one of the best in the east , BUT they still give you room to desire more as they have the best offence efficency in the east BUT the worst ball handeling in the east and also bad scoring , on the other side they one of the best in the entire league , best blocking in the east , great deffence , good rebounding , I think that if they improve their ball handeling/scoring abit , they will be very scary. Team Scores: Scoring: D- Offence efficency: A+ Deffence: A- Stealing: C Rebounding: B- Blocking: A+ Ball Handeling: D- Chicago Bulls: Bulls are the best deffence/rebounding team in the east , thats the reason they got so much wins , they are also the best defensive team in the league and also the best rebounding team in the east by far (only the Pistons come close) , their lineup is ultra deffensive and Node/Klaus/Scares gives them insane rebounding , with avg slightly less then avg stealing/offence efficency and ball handling it makes them a well balanced and elite team , main weakness will be the bad scoring and the low blocking when they meet good post players. Team Scores: Scoring: F Offence efficency: D+ Deffence: A+ Stealing: C+ Rebounding: A+ Blocking: D Ball Handeling: D+ Miami Heat: Heat are just a very well balanced team all over , Heat has good scoring with good efficency along with good ball handling they make 1 of the hardest offensive teams to play against , rebounding is alright , blocking and defence are avg though , Skyler Mclean really hurts this team D and along with alot of TO's those are the main weaknesses of the Heat , they will have a tough time against teams with high stealing that will force alot of TO's on them. Team Scores: Scoring: B+ Offence efficency: A- Deffence: B- Stealing: A Rebounding: C+ Blocking: C Ball Handeling: B+ Detroit Pistons: Pistons team have alot of potensial but they are everything but a balanced team , they have elite offence efficency and elite rebounding with avg+ ball handling and deffence , but their scoring/stealing/blocking is just bad , if they manage to improve at least 2 of those 3 catagories we might see a contender , but untill then they might catch a low seed playoff spot again. Team Scores: Scoring: F- Offence efficency: A Deffence: C- Stealing: F+ Rebounding: A Blocking: F Ball Handeling: C- Philadelphia 76ers: 76'ers are an intersting team , on 1 side they have great offence efficency , good blocking and good ball handeling , but on the other side madicore scoring/deffence/rebouding , not very balanced! they are still young so that is expected , might steal a playoff spot this year because they have great depth , but deff doesn't look like a contender , YET. Team Scores: Scoring: C+ Offence efficency: D- Deffence: F+ Stealing: D+ Rebounding: D- Blocking: B- Ball Handeling: B- Boston Celtics: When I look at the Celtics I see a very balanced team , with good offence efficency, good stealing/rebounding/blocking , they have what it takes to win alot of games , they are not very bad at ANYTHING , no big weaknesses in that team , I'd say they will only have trouble against high stealing / high off efficency teams , and those are very speific teams. Team Scores: Scoring: D Offence efficency: B Deffence: D Stealing: B Rebounding: B+ Blocking: B+ Ball Handeling: D New York Knicks: Knicks deff looking like a winning team this year with bunchy and kewitak back , they have the best stealing in the east BY FAR , with elite blocking/deffence and good ball handling I see them winning alot of games this year , their biggest weakness is their rebounding , they are going to struggle against against good deffensive/rebounding teams. Team Scores: Scoring: C- Offence efficency: D+ Deffence: A Stealing: A+ Rebounding: F Blocking: A Ball Handeling: B Orlando Magic: When I look at the Magic I see a balanced team exept the ball handling , if they had better ball handling this team would be very balanced and deff a playoff team , but their bad ball handeling is their main weakness , espically when your one of the best scoring team in the east , everything else is just around avg or abit above avg. Team Scores: Scoring: A- Offence efficency: C- Deffence: C+ Stealing: B- Rebounding: D+ Blocking: C- Ball Handeling: F+ Brooklyn Nets: Nets are a very solid team , with elite stealing and ball handling , good scoring and blocking , but madicore rebounding/deffence and horrible offence efficency , wich is stoping them from really beeing a contender , probably a playoff spot again this year , but they really need to work on improving some of those catagories. Team Scores: Scoring: C Offence efficency: F Deffence: D- Stealing: A- Rebounding: D Blocking: C+ Ball Handeling: A Milwaukee Bucks: Bucks are obviously one of the best teams in the east , they have the best scoring in the east along with the best ball handeling wich makes 1 killer offence , their deffence and rebounding is very good as well , but their main weakness is their offence efficency , they will struggle against good deffnesive teams like the Sharks and bulls , also their madicore stealing/blocking will make them struggle against very good offensive teams , I guss thats why they had 2 1st round exsits for the last 2 years , maybe they can improve some of those catagories and take the next step. Team Scores: Scoring: A+ Offence efficency: F+ Deffence: B+ Stealing: D Rebounding: B Blocking: D Ball Handeling: A+ Atlanta Hawks: Hawks deff looks like a lotto team to me , they have nice blocking and scoring , not bad at the steals and ball handeling department , but they dre not very good at anything , also their the worst deffensive team in the east , wich means they are going to lose alot of games. Team Scores: Scoring: B- Offence efficency: F- Deffence: F- Stealing: C- Rebounding: C- Blocking: B Ball Handeling: C+ London Raptors: Raptors looks like a 0.500 team to me AT BEST , they are not very balanced , their deffence is good , their offence efficency is good , their blocking is elite , rebounding is ok , but they are the worst ball handeling team in the east and also bad at steals , that will cost them alot of games because they take bad care of the ball and also don't force other teams to take bad care of the ball , other then their bad bad ball handeling though they look nice and balanced , if PP can improve the ball handeling this team can be very good. Team Scores: Scoring: D+ Offence efficency: B- Deffence: B Stealing: D- Rebounding: C Blocking: A- Ball Handeling: F Clevland Cavalires: Cavs are an amuzing team this year , they are actually one of the best offence capable teams in the entire league with great scoring ability and great offence efficency , their D is alright , but the rest of the stuff is just comedy... very bad rebounding/blocking/stealing/ball handeling , infact they are the worst stealing/blocking/ball handeling team in the east , on the bright side they are looking at a top pick in the draft , their offence might steal a few games for them , but I can't see them winning alot. Team Scores: Scoring: A Offence efficency: A- Deffence: C Stealing: F- Rebounding: F+ Blocking: F- Ball Handeling: F- Lexington Kings: Kings deff look like a lotto team to me , great rebounding and ball handeling , but bad all over other places with bad scoring/blocking/stealing with just madicore defence and offence efficency will make sure this team will lose alot of games , probably what timmey is aiming for because he gets back his pick if its top 5. Team Scores: Scoring: F+ Offence efficency: D Deffence: D+ Stealing: F Rebounding: A- Blocking: F+ Ball Handeling: A- Washington Bullets: Bullets also looks like a lotto team to me , any team with such bad deffence and rebounding would probably be in the lotto , they have nice scoring and good stealing , offence efficency and ball handeling is ok too , they will deff win some games , but not ALOT of em , this team looks like 1-2 moves away from beeing a prefectly balanced team though. Team Scores: Scoring: B Offence efficency: C+ Deffence: F Stealing: B+ Rebounding: F- Blocking: D Ball Handeling: C Thats it! West will be coming soon. __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum Last edited by Smath; 12-29-2012 at 10:04 PM.

12-29-2012, 11:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,076 Rep Power: 344832	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) Teams are ofcorse in no praticular order , also the grading system is based on east stats ONLY , wich means these grades will show you where you stand in each catagorie compared to the other east teams and not the entire league. __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum

12-29-2012, 11:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
El Shaqtus KVBL's Resident Old Fart Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Louis Metro Posts: 6,283 Rep Power: 1817431	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) I'm going to be so bad my preview goes for 2 teams __________________ Mom, thanks for everything. RIP Coach Rick Majerus 12/1/12. You were the one that said it was OK to think big at SLU. You were right. KVBL Lexington Kings 2023 KVBL Champions: St. Louis Warriors (El Shaqtus) 2026 KVBL First Loser

12-29-2012, 11:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
fsecreast Star Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 2,922 Rep Power: 234297	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) My scoring and ball handling is a D? Come on now. I had Milt at 8+APG and Jude almost averaged a triple double with assists. scoring? Weren't you the one afraid of my offense in the playoffs. Saying if the score broke 100 I'd win.

12-29-2012, 11:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
fsecreast Star Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 2,922 Rep Power: 234297	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) Also my team shot 49% last year.

12-29-2012, 11:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,076 Rep Power: 344832	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) Geez I knew this will come. ok 1st of all the grading system is based on your starting 5 , benches are not included AT ALL. 2nd of all you can't argue with the ball handeling , ur combined Ast+TO rating was one of the lowest... you just can't argue with that , its a fact. about scoring , its 2ga+FTA+3ga combined of your starting 5 , so you can't really aruge about that as well. Benches ofcorse gives alot of those teams what they lack , but im looking at starting 5's here. btw - offence efficency is the only catagorie not based on pure raw ratings , so thats the only catagorie you can aruge about __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum

12-29-2012, 11:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,076 Rep Power: 344832	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) btw creast for your info , I just checked my table - your starting 5 have the lowest TO rating combined in the entire east , and your trying to claim your ball handeling is good? __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum

12-29-2012, 12:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 16,833 Rep Power: 12803037	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) I'm a little surprised to see my teams grades at where they are, not that I expected them to be high. I mean...F- in offensive efficiency? That's a little extreme. Ballhandling seems very low too considering my total assist rating between my 5 starters is 154 and my total combined turnover rating is 295. Seems like we have strong passing (balanced too in terms of where it's coming from) with above average TO ratings (Lukas at 54, Cheikh at 78, Pastor at 74...other two guys both at 44). My defense should be below average, but these F-'s are a little silly. Andrews at starting center has a 9 p-d, Lukas and Senghor are solid defenders, and Pastner is average (8 o-d will come in handy vs a few East teams, for example the 76ers with Bridge, the Bucks with Rogic, Klaus for the Bulls). There are only a few teams that really have the guys to abuse Pastner at PF. It's not like LeMychal Thomas (Sharks), Yoruba for the Celtics, Phillips for the Pistons, any of the Nets big rotation, etc. will be pounding on Pastner a few times a year. He'll suffice. Maybe D or D+, but F-? Appreciate the work though. __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

12-29-2012, 12:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Porn Player Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jolly Ingerland.. Age: 25 Posts: 26,067 Rep Power: 21474873	Benches aren't included? 6th men surely need to be considered. Great write up, really enjoyed it. I might end up inserting Diggs and taking out Rookwell if my current 'scoring' line up doesn't work out. Thanks for the work Smath. __________________

12-29-2012, 12:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,076 Rep Power: 344832	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) BJ like I said , your ranked 7th in the east out of 15 teams in Ast+TO combined rating , 7th = C+ offence efficency is the only thing guys could aruge on cause its not based on pure raw ratings. __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum

12-29-2012, 12:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,076 Rep Power: 344832	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) oh and about your D BJ , you have 99 combined 1-9's between your starting 5 , thats the lowest in the east. therefore F- try to understand the grading here... some one can have 104 1-9 D's and get F+ and some one on 108 will get B- , sometimes the gaps between teams are not big , this grading is just comparing your team to other teams in the east. __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum

12-29-2012, 12:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 16,833 Rep Power: 12803037	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) Just using raw combined numbers is a less than ideal grading system in terms of 1-9's. It's not only about having high 1-9's, but having appropriately placed 1-9's through your positions. __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

12-29-2012, 12:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
El Shaqtus KVBL's Resident Old Fart Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Louis Metro Posts: 6,283 Rep Power: 1817431	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) Really suprised my rebounding was that high. I saw that as a negative on my team after Andrews. __________________ Mom, thanks for everything. RIP Coach Rick Majerus 12/1/12. You were the one that said it was OK to think big at SLU. You were right. KVBL Lexington Kings 2023 KVBL Champions: St. Louis Warriors (El Shaqtus) 2026 KVBL First Loser

12-29-2012, 12:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,076 Rep Power: 344832	Re: KVBL 2029 Team Grades (East) It took several hours to put as it is diffrent bench players play diffrent min's its just impossible to count it in sorry :/ in playoffs though your starting 5's play most of the times , so the grading is pretty accurate =] + teams can look at this and know what they are looking for in bench guys , what their starting 5's are lacking =] __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum

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