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Old 11-21-2012, 12:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Interesting to look back at all the really solid draft picks I've traded, I feel like the real life Suns.
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Ya, I'm mad that I took Duke over the Big Man. Hopefully I get the number 1 pick this year and make the right choice
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Re: KVBL 3.0 Draft History

sorted them by team here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...HZkdOV0E#gid=0
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For a slot further down, #16 has been pretty good.
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Was thinking about doing a redraft of some of the older ones, maybe an article on the biggest steals/busts. This'll make things easier (and more likely to happen). I'll start by just ranking the number 1 picks
Phil Scates
Dre Byers
Cameron Clothier
Victor Lord Jr.
Freddy Childs
Ricky Briscoe
Matt Kwietak
Greg Hope
Duke Lazear
Robert Goodhue
Teddy Moss III

Scates was pretty easy for #1, Byers and Cloth were a bit of a toss up, and VLJ could get in that group, definitely think its those three in some order after Scates. The rest are more or less by preference
Byers over Scates without hesitation, and it's possible I would take Victor Lord over him too. Kwietak would be ahead of Briscoe and Freddy Childs for me too. Heck, I'd take Greg Hope over both of those guys as well. Here would be my "at a quick glance" rankings.

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Cloth
Kwietak

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Childs
Goodhue
Briscoe

Duke
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Without hesitation though?
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Re: KVBL 3.0 Draft History

Without hesitation, absolutely. Dre Byers has the benefit of more progressions, though after a little more looking around I'd probably put Scates ahead of Lord.

It's tough because Lord has 0 progressions, Byers has 6 seasons of progressions, and Scates only has 2. So we're not judging these guys at their peaks, they're all at different periods of their careers. Byers is just so impactful, he lead Warrior teams to multiple Final's appearances including one ring.
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Byers actually is only a year older than Scates, but Scates is probably the best perimeter defender in the league, Byers is nice on defense but not a game changer there. When it comes to offense and rebounding, I think it's pretty much a toss up between the two (when you factor in positions), so the defensive edge made the big difference to me.
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I take Byers over Scates also. No question in my mind.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:48 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I take Byers over Scates also. No question in my mind.
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Byers actually is only a year older than Scates, but Scates is probably the best perimeter defender in the league, Byers is nice on defense but not a game changer there. When it comes to offense and rebounding, I think it's pretty much a toss up between the two (when you factor in positions), so the defensive edge made the big difference to me.
He's definitely not the best perimeter defender, that title belongs to Cameron Clothier with his 9-9-9-7 defensive 1-9's and 65 steall/68 block. Scates is a great defender, but Cloth is noticeably better than him on that side of the ball.

And how isn't Byers a game changer defensively? 9 o-d, 7 d-d, 9 p-d, 42 block rating, and a low foul rate. He can defend any type of big man (at PF or C), is a threat to block a shot, and does it all at a 2 DI. I agree it's not the most enticing part of his game, but I think that says more about the total package that he is versus the quality of his defense not being elite.
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LOL i drafted Ortiz
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He's definitely not the best perimeter defender, that title belongs to Cameron Clothier with his 9-9-9-7 defensive 1-9's and 65 steall/68 block. Scates is a great defender, but Cloth is noticeably better than him on that side of the ball.

And how isn't Byers a game changer defensively? 9 o-d, 7 d-d, 9 p-d, 42 block rating and a low foul rate. He can defend any type of big man, is a threat to block a shot, and does it all at a 2 DI. I agree it's not the most enticing part of his game, but I think that says more about the total package that he is versus the quality of his defense not being elite.
figured I was forgetting someone on defense, just didn't think it would be the third guy on my list after the two we're talking about lol

Byers defensive 1-9s are great, but so are Scates. And you'll find way more players with a 42 block rating than a 112 steal rating. Byers numbers are the type that you're happy to have on a starter, whereas Scates numbers are the type that would make him a starter. I just don't see that type of difference in any other aspect of their games.
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112 steal rating doesnt hit GO as hard cause he's had Caramel all his life
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