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Old 12-29-2012, 01:18 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Trade: Atlanta and Cleveland

Interesting to read some of these comments now.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:31 PM   #32 (permalink)
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at this kid bumping a 3 year old thread to puff out his pigeon chest.

People were right in this thread, Jay was much better short term.

I mean, how many seasons did it take you to finally win a 'Ship with the best player in the league?
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at this kid bumping a 3 year old thread to puff out his pigeon chest.

People were right in this thread, Jay was much better short term.

I mean, how many seasons did it take you to finally win a 'Ship with the best player in the league?
3 years? It was 1-24-12, which is just over 11 months ago...
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Re: Trade: Atlanta and Cleveland

Or maybe Caramel by himself doesn't win championships, it's all about the team you put around him.
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Re: Trade: Atlanta and Cleveland

I just think this whole argument is just silly. How many teams can we make this same ridiculous argument for? How many teams won titles just because of Maynard? LeBron? Dwight? This is hardly an infrequent phenomenon.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:52 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I think it was more than three. Jay won one and I won my two before you got your first. And I think the Wolves and Rockets might've each won one in there too.
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Re: Trade: Atlanta and Cleveland

Of note is that Jay won a title pretty much immediately after this trade. So everyone who said "This works out better for Jay in the short term" was right, but Caramel kept getting better and better and better, eventually becoming the beast we all know and love today and winning his chips.
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Re: Trade: Atlanta and Cleveland

I won before the BJ Reigns started.

File that under "Otherwise Irrelevant Self-Promotion"
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It took BJ about five or six seasons of Caramel before winning it.
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Yeah, Caramel had some silly progressions after this trade.
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