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**King Joseus** · 11-04-2012, 04:03 PM

Houston trades: Devin Bishop, Ethan Salm
Houston receives: Dmitriy Mikhailov

Memphis trades: Dmitriy Mikhailov
Memphis receives: Devin Bishop, Ethan Salm

Deal is official.

Zei_Zao_LS · 11-04-2012, 04:49 PM

I like this a lot for Houston's rebuild. Mikhailov is a building block in the right situation, and Houston might be that spot.

Duck · 11-04-2012, 07:56 PM

Maybe I'm getting my hopes up too high here but I really think that Mikhailov is gonna be the guy in Houston. I think I can get his % up above 53 %, and will fit in well next to vontaze. The lack of real solid guys at 1/2 is troublesome. If Bart Hart's percentages were each 10% higher we'd be balling, but that's obviously not that case.

**Goulet** · 11-04-2012, 08:00 PM

Mikhailov has a history of foul trouble.

Curb that and his value increases.

But claiming him to be "the guy" is risky IMO.

Kidd · 11-04-2012, 08:29 PM

I'd have given Mikhailov the max if his foul rate wasn't so shitty.

Duck · 11-04-2012, 09:28 PM

I can't speak for historical performance, but AllRim was playing him at " - " di. I think that's too much. I was playing Dwight mostly at -2 and got him to 34-36 mpg.

**Goulet** · 11-05-2012, 05:25 AM

Eh, Mikhailov was at -2 for me a lot.

He's not out of control, but I'd be surprised to see him above 30-32 MPG

Maybe a higher foul rate guy alongside him would help.

I had him behind Maynard alongside Yoruba, with Harvey in there as well.

**Porn Player** · 11-05-2012, 05:27 AM

Devin Bishop is overrated. You won't win with him. Shitty FG%, no 3 point shooting at all and plays porous defense.

I like Dmitry.

Smath · 11-05-2012, 10:38 AM

Rockets deff got the better end here =]

AllRim · 11-05-2012, 12:52 PM

Meh, I needed a starting quality pg. Mikhailov was my 6th man but I didn't want to pay him that much. Next offseason will be a big one for me. I have Daniels 20 mil coming off and a probable lotto pick. And I had Mikhailov on the trade block for a couple of weeks received ZERO offers until Duck came along. So me not wanting to pay a pretty sizable contract to guy that comes off the bench played a huge role in me moving him. I really don't think I could have gotten a better deal than this one due to the lack of offers received.

And yes I agree Duck did come out of this deal on the winning side.

Although I do like Bishop's high ast numbers, I think he will improve Duke's offensive game.

**Goulet** · 11-05-2012, 03:47 PM

Well.....

Why have Mikhailov come off the bench if you like him.

If Collins is gonna come off the books than the youngster is way more important to a youth movement

AllRim · 11-05-2012, 04:12 PM

True, But I think you mean Daniels, ya?

I just liked having him off the bench for scoring. And there was no way I liked him enough to pay that contract to him. Flieschmann was killing me as a starting pg. This is a big upgrade to my pg depth as my backup was garbage. Also Salm will do just fine off the bench

scdn · 11-05-2012, 04:31 PM

Yeah I see no problem with the trade for AllRim. Bishop is definitely a major upgrade of Fleischmann and like AllRim will be fine as a 3rd big. Even trade for both. I remember when many were chastizing Goulet for the Mikhailov pick.

**Goulet** · 11-05-2012, 04:38 PM

AND killing Allrim when he traded for him, lol.

Clearly folks differ on opinion on both these guys

AllRim · 11-05-2012, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goulet

AND killing Allrim when he traded for him, lol.

Clearly folks differ on opinion on both these guys

Man I was just thinking the same thing.....I guess I turned Mikhailov into a star because he finished in the top 5 for 6th man of the year?? I can't win, ever

11-04-2012, 04:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
King Joseus Are You Ready Join Date: May 2003 Location: Zhengzhou Age: 25 Posts: 34,419 Rep Power: 9733001	Trade: Houston and Memphis Houston trades: Devin Bishop, Ethan Salm Houston receives: Dmitriy Mikhailov Memphis trades: Dmitriy Mikhailov Memphis receives: Devin Bishop, Ethan Salm Deal is official. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

11-04-2012, 04:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zei_Zao_LS Self-Proclaimed Expert Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I thought you were a'right in that one movie. Age: 24 Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 2810067	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis I like this a lot for Houston's rebuild. Mikhailov is a building block in the right situation, and Houston might be that spot. __________________ KVBL Sim League - 2032-33 Phoenix Suns PG: Agustin Paredes SG: Michael Shakur SF: Tomer Hefetz PF: Terry Howard C: Ken Akers Bench: DeVonn Dawkins, Henry Tobback, Salvatore Fantastigas, Douglas Ridenhour, Kyle Molidor, Erick Best, Darius Sams BBBL Sim League - 2012-13 Phoenix Suns PG: Rajon Rondo SG: Thabo Sefolosha SF: Carlos Delfino PF: Nikola Pekovic C: Roy Hibbert Bench: Kyle Korver, Delonte West, Tony Battie, Shelden Williams, John Jenkins, Luke Zeller

11-04-2012, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Duck Star Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Disney World Posts: 2,990 Rep Power: 1836626	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis Maybe I'm getting my hopes up too high here but I really think that Mikhailov is gonna be the guy in Houston. I think I can get his % up above 53 %, and will fit in well next to vontaze. The lack of real solid guys at 1/2 is troublesome. If Bart Hart's percentages were each 10% higher we'd be balling, but that's obviously not that case. __________________ 2021 KVBL Champions: Houston Rockets (Duck34234) Lineup - PG Savoris Salatocianas \| SG Eugene Foster \| SF LeBron James \| PF Kevin Irujo \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Manu Ginobili Finals MVP: Dwight Howard 2015 KVBL Champions: Houston Rockets (Duck34234) Lineup - PG Clifton \| SG Ginobili \| SF Garnett \| PF Wright \| C Howard \| 6th man SG/SF R. Allen 2014 KVBL Champions: Houston Rockets (Duck34234) Lineup - PG Clifton \| SG Ginobili \| SF Garnett \| PF Wright \| C Howard \| 6th man SG/SF R. Allen

11-04-2012, 08:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
Goulet The Master Of Panic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Posts: 3,021 Rep Power: 915585	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis Mikhailov has a history of foul trouble. Curb that and his value increases. But claiming him to be "the guy" is risky IMO. __________________

11-04-2012, 09:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Duck Star Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Disney World Posts: 2,990 Rep Power: 1836626	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis I can't speak for historical performance, but AllRim was playing him at " - " di. I think that's too much. I was playing Dwight mostly at -2 and got him to 34-36 mpg. __________________ 2021 KVBL Champions: Houston Rockets (Duck34234) Lineup - PG Savoris Salatocianas \| SG Eugene Foster \| SF LeBron James \| PF Kevin Irujo \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Manu Ginobili Finals MVP: Dwight Howard 2015 KVBL Champions: Houston Rockets (Duck34234) Lineup - PG Clifton \| SG Ginobili \| SF Garnett \| PF Wright \| C Howard \| 6th man SG/SF R. Allen 2014 KVBL Champions: Houston Rockets (Duck34234) Lineup - PG Clifton \| SG Ginobili \| SF Garnett \| PF Wright \| C Howard \| 6th man SG/SF R. Allen

11-05-2012, 05:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
Goulet The Master Of Panic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Posts: 3,021 Rep Power: 915585	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis Eh, Mikhailov was at -2 for me a lot. He's not out of control, but I'd be surprised to see him above 30-32 MPG Maybe a higher foul rate guy alongside him would help. I had him behind Maynard alongside Yoruba, with Harvey in there as well. __________________

11-05-2012, 05:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
Porn Player Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jolly Ingerland.. Age: 25 Posts: 26,018 Rep Power: 21474873	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis Devin Bishop is overrated. You won't win with him. Shitty FG%, no 3 point shooting at all and plays porous defense. I like Dmitry. __________________

11-05-2012, 10:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,051 Rep Power: 344832	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis Rockets deff got the better end here =] __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Sergio Jose Salvadores \| SG Chris Love \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Dwight Howard \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Malcolm Xavier 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) Lineup - PG Chris Love \| SG Gerrod Clifton \| SF Malcolm Xavier \| PF Skyler McClean \| C Jeremy James \| 6th man SG Edd Timmons Finals MVP: Skyler McClean 2016-2017 FRSL Champions PG: Jrue Holiday /// SG: Monta Ellis /// SF: Josh Smith /// PF: Tim Duncan /// C: Andrew Bynum /// 6th player: Devin Ebanks /// Playoffs MVP: Andew Bynum

11-05-2012, 12:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
AllRim Star Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Age: 29 Posts: 3,224 Rep Power: 449802	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis Meh, I needed a starting quality pg. Mikhailov was my 6th man but I didn't want to pay him that much. Next offseason will be a big one for me. I have Daniels 20 mil coming off and a probable lotto pick. And I had Mikhailov on the trade block for a couple of weeks received ZERO offers until Duck came along. So me not wanting to pay a pretty sizable contract to guy that comes off the bench played a huge role in me moving him. I really don't think I could have gotten a better deal than this one due to the lack of offers received. And yes I agree Duck did come out of this deal on the winning side. Although I do like Bishop's high ast numbers, I think he will improve Duke's offensive game. __________________ FRSL Toronto Raptors - Home Court Igloo advantage KVBL Grizzlies - The team that traded Duke and all their picks, to get nothing in return. Gary level achieved.

11-05-2012, 03:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
Goulet The Master Of Panic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Posts: 3,021 Rep Power: 915585	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis Well..... Why have Mikhailov come off the bench if you like him. If Collins is gonna come off the books than the youngster is way more important to a youth movement __________________

11-05-2012, 04:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
AllRim Star Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Age: 29 Posts: 3,224 Rep Power: 449802	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis True, But I think you mean Daniels, ya? I just liked having him off the bench for scoring. And there was no way I liked him enough to pay that contract to him. Flieschmann was killing me as a starting pg. This is a big upgrade to my pg depth as my backup was garbage. Also Salm will do just fine off the bench __________________ FRSL Toronto Raptors - Home Court Igloo advantage KVBL Grizzlies - The team that traded Duke and all their picks, to get nothing in return. Gary level achieved.

11-05-2012, 04:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
scdn History will repeat after 20 years Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,530 Rep Power: 1626404	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis Yeah I see no problem with the trade for AllRim. Bishop is definitely a major upgrade of Fleischmann and like AllRim will be fine as a 3rd big. Even trade for both. I remember when many were chastizing Goulet for the Mikhailov pick. __________________ KVBL Owner, San Antonio Spurs Quincy McCall/Bo Roberts Mikel Opoku/Willie Worsley Norberto Rosas Harry Kingsley Casey Schuler/Richard Osborn

11-05-2012, 04:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
Goulet The Master Of Panic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Posts: 3,021 Rep Power: 915585	Re: Trade: Houston and Memphis AND killing Allrim when he traded for him, lol. Clearly folks differ on opinion on both these guys __________________

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