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Old 11-13-2012, 12:34 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm sure PP pedaled the 28 ppg Kilmartin has been averaging in his pitch.
Not at all.

Roturn liked Kilmartin, that's pretty much how the discussion got us to the point it did.

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eh, Akers isn't THAT good for all of you guys to be so riled up about this...
People just get worked up when Porn pulls off a trade. I rape everybody yet I win nothing, something must be off in the judgement of others.

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A rotational big for a rotational wing. I don't see what the big deal is. It's one guy who's solid all around with one elite talent (shot blocking) for one guy who's an elite scorer with great defensive 1-9's. Granted he doesn't get much in the way of rebounds or assists, but it's not like he traded Barry Wagner for him. He traded a mid-level big for a mid-level wing.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Kilmartin is just 26 and he's improved every season he has been in the league. Akers might go the other way and be one of those guys that doesn't reach his potential.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:53 AM   #32 (permalink)
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thats why you are such a bad GM , you think Kilmartin is a good player....

Akers is 19 years old , he WILL be a legit starter in this league.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:10 AM   #33 (permalink)
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thats why you are such a bad GM , you think Kilmartin is a good player....

Akers is 19 years old , he WILL be a legit starter in this league.
I think he is trying to justify this as a non rape trade, but it isn't really working. He knows Kilmartin isn't as valuable.

He is a SF only that can't rebound, can't pass and doesn't get steals. He can score but not at high enough % since that's all he does.

I'm just wondering why Prince hasn't started up the rape memes yet.....

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Old 11-13-2012, 08:30 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:42 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Ahhh my bad. Still to new I guess
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:49 AM   #36 (permalink)
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thats why you are such a bad GM , you think Kilmartin is a good player....

Akers is 19 years old , he WILL be a legit starter in this league.
Akers is 22.

You know his ratings for in a couple seasons? Awesome, please pass them on.

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I think he is trying to justify this as a non rape trade, but it isn't really working. He knows Kilmartin isn't as valuable.

He is a SF only that can't rebound, can't pass and doesn't get steals. He can score but not at high enough % since that's all he does.
I couldn't give a ****. If I got a 'rape' trade, I'd be thrilled. I'm not here to babysit anyone, it's a competitive league.

Kilmartin is SG/SF too and has really impressive 1-9's for either position which will be essential come playoff time. His %'s are going to be fine as well, that's just more bullshit you're spewing, he has solid ratings in that department.

He's an elite scorer whichever way you look at him and exactly what Roturn wanted.
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Definitely not getting all the Kilmartin hate. It's kind of funny actually.
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Re: Trade: Cleveland and London

its a rape trade.

Not the biggest rape, but still...

Lets take a look at his numbers since this is his first year as a starter

26 ppg hey not bad at all
40% from the field meh could be better
35% from 3 not bad either
Now this is where it gets ugly
0.9 rebs per game hmmmm BRUTAL
0.09 Asts per game ouch
0.9 steals for a good defender ewwwwww
doesn't even try to block a shot ever.

Please stop acting like you actually think Kilmartin is a fair deal here
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its a rape trade.

Not the biggest rape, but still...

Lets take a look at his numbers since this is his first year as a starter

26 ppg hey not bad at all
40% from the field meh could be better
35% from 3 not bad either
Now this is where it gets ugly
0.9 rebs per game hmmmm BRUTAL
0.09 Asts per game ouch
0.9 steals for a good defender ewwwwww
doesn't even try to block a shot ever.

Please stop acting like you actually think Kilmartin is a fair deal here
This is a stupid but I'll play along

Ken Akers has played 16 games, started 7 of them, here are his stats

6ppg
2.5fpg
2blks
2turnovers
0.7stls
0.6asts
7rbg

Matt Kilmartin has offensive 1-9s to the value of 26, and defensive 1-9s of 25.

Ken Akers has offensive 1-9s to the value of 13, and defensive 1-9s of 16.
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Re: Trade: Cleveland and London

This is stupid

Kilmartin 38 minutes per game
Akers 22.5

Akers is an elite shot blocker above average rebounder and has a good shooting %

Akers has a way higher upside, and is way more valuable for any team.

You can try to spin any way you want, but I'd say 100% of gm's that have been around for a couple seasons don't even think about this doing this deal.
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I'm not spinning anything. Roturn makes the decisions for the Cavs, not me. I never forced him to take any deal, I don't do a hard sell.
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So you're finally admitting that you clearly came out on top of this trade, and took advantage of the situation. That's all I wanted to hear.
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You guys are saying it's a RAPE TRADE

Prawn is saying it's just a trade.
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I'm not spinning anything. Roturn makes the decisions for the Cavs, not me. I never forced him to take any deal, I don't do a hard sell.
This sums it up.

Return is the GM of the Cavs.

For all of 1 day before that trade. Was it even a full 24 hours?!

He has zero time to assess.

Neither JayK or even KJ do this for Cavs.

Trade the 8th pick in a very nice draft for a soso vet.

It's the timing... And for a vet GM to pry away a newbies youngest asset is just poor.

Is it the biggest rape... Maybe not.

But it's sharky as hell as pretty poor that to win you need to pounce on a brand new GM the day he joins cuz no one else will agree to your awful trade proposals.
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Even if it was better for him than for me. I wanted a scoring wing. I got a scoring wing.
My bigs are solid and I needed a wing more.
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