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**King Joseus** · 11-15-2012, 11:36 PM

Memphis trades: Devin Bishop, Tyrone Williams, Sonics 2027 first round pick
Memphis receives: Li Mingwei, Dan Clover, Ulysses Black, Tim Henson, Nenad Knezevic, Joe Keisel, Supreme Muhammad, Tracy Hopper

Oklahoma City trades: Li Mingwei, Dan Clover, Ulysses Black, Tim Henson, Nenad Knezevic, Joe Keisel, Supreme Muhammad, Tracy Hopper
Oklahoma City receives: Devin Bishop, Tyrone Williams, Sonics 2027 first round pick

Deal is official.

Drizzy · 11-16-2012, 12:09 AM

I remember a time when people got on me for trading Ulysses Black

omer51 · 11-16-2012, 12:38 AM

This trade is even worst then GPP-Roturn trade...

kevinblazer · 11-16-2012, 01:04 AM

Smh Bishop is so good

**Porn Player** · 11-16-2012, 02:21 AM

This is ****ing brutal.

So you send the two best players in the deal AND a 1st round pick?

GTFO. I send a 25ppg scorer for a rookie and I get chewed up like a mother****er. I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

scdn · 11-16-2012, 03:22 AM

Goulet tells him in the podcast to not trade 1sts away, and then Goulet asks for one in the trade. You didn't stay classy, Oklahoma. Hopefully Mingwei progresses nicely.

**Goulet** · 11-16-2012, 04:16 AM

Bishop can't be extended

The Ty will contract is HUGE.

Without the sonics pick there's no reason for me to trade Mingwei, a very nice spec for a regressed rental and Ty Wills contract.

In Essense I gave him Mingwei for the pick he traded to PP. how's that bad?

Yes bishops included but as a rental what's he gonna get for him?

He gets full cap relief here.

What's worse at this point is the Mikhailov trade.

You can obviously argue he'd get expirings plus a late 1st for bishop from some desperate but does he get a 19 year old with talent like Mingwei for Ty will from ANYONE else?

Mingwei is the most valuable piece changing hands here IMO largely due to Ty Wills contract.

scdn · 11-16-2012, 04:20 AM

Um, Ty Will has 2 straight TO's coming up.

**Porn Player** · 11-16-2012, 04:20 AM

Ty Wills contract has team options this year and next. It's not a bad contract at all.

I wonder if Greg Oden will lend me Caramel Love for the rest of the season, I mean, what else is he gonna get?

Li Mingwei is a piece of shit.

**Goulet** · 11-16-2012, 04:21 AM

Remember Porn have up way less to get Ty Will from Brian.

I think folks get blinded by the names without looking at the true value for the actual team.

Porn trading a random vet for a youngster is still way worse than a team that now concedes they should be rebuilding actually getting a nice prospect.

It's not like I traded veterans back to him.

**Goulet** · 11-16-2012, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scdn

Um, Ty Will has 2 straight TO's coming up.

What does this matter?

Does anyone still give him a quality player like Mingwei?

There's a big difference between a late 1st and a guy like Mingwei IMO

**Porn Player** · 11-16-2012, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goulet

Remember Porn have up way less to get Ty Will from Brian.

I think folks get blinded by the names without looking at the true value for the actual team.

Porn trading a random vet for a youngster is still way worse than a team that now concedes they should be rebuilding actually getting a nice prospect.

It's not like I traded veterans back to him.

You traded nothing back, that's the problem.

You got two starters and a 1st round pick for expirings and Li Mingwei (who as mentioned, is a piece of shit).

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Joseus

Brooklyn trades: Tyrone Williams
Brooklyn receives: Allan Fisher, Josh Smith, Benedict Brown, 2026 first round pick

London trades: Allan Fisher, Josh Smith, Benedict Brown, 2026 first round pick
London receives: Tyrone Williams

Deal is official.

I gave up Allan Fisher and a 1st round pick (that was expected to be an 8-18 pick range).

Stop bullshitting.

**Goulet** · 11-16-2012, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Player

Ty Wills contract has team options this year and next. It's not a bad contract at all.

I wonder if Greg Oden will lend me Caramel Love for the rest of the season, I mean, what else is he gonna get?

Li Mingwei is a piece of shit.

I know u backed off but did you not ask for him previously?

The fact that you'd call a 19 year old with potential a piece of shit speaks volumes as to why the raptors are irrelevant.

Mingwei >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kilmartin

scdn · 11-16-2012, 04:27 AM

That's the thing though. He traded TWO useful players and a roll of the dice pick for ONE prospect.

**Goulet** · 11-16-2012, 04:28 AM

Allan Fisher and an expected lotto pick?

Porn you're classic.

Allan Fisher?

Lol

11-15-2012, 11:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
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11-16-2012, 12:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
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11-16-2012, 02:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
Porn Player Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jolly Ingerland.. Age: 25 Posts: 25,951 Rep Power: 21474872	Re: Trade: Memphis and Oklahoma City This is **ing brutal. So you send the two best players in the deal AND a 1st round pick? GTFO. I send a 25ppg scorer for a rookie and I get chewed up like a mother**er. I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out. __________________

11-16-2012, 03:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
scdn History will repeat after 20 years Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,521 Rep Power: 1626404	Re: Trade: Memphis and Oklahoma City Goulet tells him in the podcast to not trade 1sts away, and then Goulet asks for one in the trade. You didn't stay classy, Oklahoma. Hopefully Mingwei progresses nicely. __________________ KVBL Owner, San Antonio Spurs Quincy McCall/Bo Roberts Mikel Opoku/Willie Worsley Norberto Rosas Harry Kingsley Casey Schuler/Richard Osborn

11-16-2012, 01:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
kevinblazer fsrl blazers kvbl nuggets Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: portland Posts: 1,334 Rep Power: 151605	Smh Bishop is so good

11-16-2012, 04:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
Goulet The Master Of Panic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Posts: 3,000 Rep Power: 915585	Re: Trade: Memphis and Oklahoma City Bishop can't be extended The Ty will contract is HUGE. Without the sonics pick there's no reason for me to trade Mingwei, a very nice spec for a regressed rental and Ty Wills contract. In Essense I gave him Mingwei for the pick he traded to PP. how's that bad? Yes bishops included but as a rental what's he gonna get for him? He gets full cap relief here. What's worse at this point is the Mikhailov trade. You can obviously argue he'd get expirings plus a late 1st for bishop from some desperate but does he get a 19 year old with talent like Mingwei for Ty will from ANYONE else? Mingwei is the most valuable piece changing hands here IMO largely due to Ty Wills contract. __________________

11-16-2012, 04:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
scdn History will repeat after 20 years Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,521 Rep Power: 1626404	Re: Trade: Memphis and Oklahoma City Um, Ty Will has 2 straight TO's coming up. __________________ KVBL Owner, San Antonio Spurs Quincy McCall/Bo Roberts Mikel Opoku/Willie Worsley Norberto Rosas Harry Kingsley Casey Schuler/Richard Osborn

11-16-2012, 04:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
Porn Player Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jolly Ingerland.. Age: 25 Posts: 25,951 Rep Power: 21474872	Re: Trade: Memphis and Oklahoma City Ty Wills contract has team options this year and next. It's not a bad contract at all. I wonder if Greg Oden will lend me Caramel Love for the rest of the season, I mean, what else is he gonna get? Li Mingwei is a piece of shit. __________________

11-16-2012, 04:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
Goulet The Master Of Panic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Posts: 3,000 Rep Power: 915585	Re: Trade: Memphis and Oklahoma City Remember Porn have up way less to get Ty Will from Brian. I think folks get blinded by the names without looking at the true value for the actual team. Porn trading a random vet for a youngster is still way worse than a team that now concedes they should be rebuilding actually getting a nice prospect. It's not like I traded veterans back to him. __________________

11-16-2012, 04:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
scdn History will repeat after 20 years Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,521 Rep Power: 1626404	Re: Trade: Memphis and Oklahoma City That's the thing though. He traded TWO useful players and a roll of the dice pick for ONE prospect. __________________ KVBL Owner, San Antonio Spurs Quincy McCall/Bo Roberts Mikel Opoku/Willie Worsley Norberto Rosas Harry Kingsley Casey Schuler/Richard Osborn

11-16-2012, 04:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
Goulet The Master Of Panic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Posts: 3,000 Rep Power: 915585	Re: Trade: Memphis and Oklahoma City Allan Fisher and an expected lotto pick? Porn you're classic. Allan Fisher? Lol __________________

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