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Old 01-13-2013, 01:21 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

Zei will never win a title with Jude. Book it.
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

Jude is over rated imo , celts deff wins this value whise.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:50 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

I went after Jude.

I still would if Zei decided to move him. Great player.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:16 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

I think Sandow is the overated here although age wise i can understand why, but still i think hey Jude is one of the best player in KVBL.
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

Couple guys came hard for Jude and almost had him. Porn actually presented a very good offer which was on the same level of this deal. KevinBlazer had a good offer as well. And of course Aero was in the mix.

Mikhailov is the next guy to go. Already have a couple offers on the table so if you're interested make sure you let me know. Jukka also is available.
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

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I think Sandow is the overated here although age wise i can understand why, but still i think hey Jude is one of the best player in KVBL.
How is Sandow overrated? 23 years old and he might be the best PG in the league already. He has great 1-9's on both sides of the ball, is a guy who can score 18+ a game, is a solid passer, really good ballhandler, has a rebounding edge as a PG, and he's even a mildly good defensive playmaker (which is upgraded by his great foul rate).

He also gives you a lot of the same flexibility that Jude does in that you can use them as a non-PG primary ballhandler, meaning you can play different types of guys around them.

I prefer Sandow to Jude, though I can see that it's more perspective and context than that.
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

6/2.2 asist-turnover ratio is pretty medicore for a PG imo, but I'm taking back my word about calling him overated (he does have amazing 1-9 ). I always like wings like Jude who you can have much more possibilities
to build around them rather then build around great PG i the normal way so i still also like this deal for Zie.
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

For a primary ballhandler that's absolutely just fine, I didn't say it was elite, but what I did say is that he's capable of being your teams primary ballhandler.
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

He's also PG/SG/SF eligible. But I still think Jude is the better player. Hits rebounding is in a whole different league. He not only allows you to have a weak ballhandler at PG but he also can make up for inferior rebounding at in the frontcourt. He would've been perfect next to a guy like Novak back in the day.
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I not sure about it. if Kj could give us his makes player better rating it was much more clear imo.
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

He also has a low foul rate and his steal rating keeps getting higher and higher. He was over two last season.
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

we know Zei likes Jude as he said so in the podcast.

Will Jude/Rhett and their TO issues be a problem though.....
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we know Zei likes Jude as he said so in the podcast.

Will Jude/Rhett and their TO issues be a problem though.....
With Spaceman and a MLEish PG...yes
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Re: Trade: Boston and Phoenix

Turnovers and the distinct lack of a starter caliber PG are definitely question marks going into the draft/FA.
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