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MemphisX · 01-30-2013, 10:30 PM

That is not overrating. You just have a different opinion.

Kidd · 01-30-2013, 10:32 PM

We have different opinions as to whether you are overrating Senghor.

**King Joseus** · 01-30-2013, 10:57 PM

lol

You should send me some RFA offers instead of this riff raff, Brian. All I've got so far is some offers from some fictional Chinese team.

Kidd · 01-30-2013, 11:05 PM

Around a quarter of our home games are going to be played in Hong Kong this upcoming season. Sort of a test-period (just a formality) before we make the move.

**King Joseus** · 01-30-2013, 11:09 PM

Been reading too much fiction lately.

Smath · 01-31-2013, 04:56 AM

btw about Senghor , hes a nice player , but criminally over payed.

fsecreast · 01-31-2013, 05:35 AM

Lets look at the season before GO reduced Cheikh's minutes in an effort to tank

18.9 PPG(47.5%), 6.1 RPG, 2APG, 2.2 SPG, 1.5 BPG, .9 TPG. Only 2.5 fouls per game.

Find me another player who forces that many turnovers without turning it over or fouling a ton and that still can average close to 20 PPG on efficient shooting.

**BlakeJesus** · 01-31-2013, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kidd

here;

That's not overrating, they both are different players. Cheikh is better if you're playing with a PG who can pass at a high level, but Prince is better if you don't have a guy like that because you can use his ballhandling as a crutch. Prince doesn't score, he shoots 42% from the field, Cheikh is a FAR better offensive rebounder.

I think they are similar level players at this point (Prince is 30 vs Cheikh 27), they just bring slightly different things to the table despite having some overlapping qualities.

Kidd · 01-31-2013, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BlakeJesus

That's not overrating, they both are different players. Cheikh is better if you're playing with a PG who can pass at a high level, but Prince is better if you don't have a guy like that because you can use his ballhandling as a crutch. Prince doesn't score, he shoots 42% from the field, Cheikh is a FAR better offensive rebounder.

I think they are similar level players at this point (Prince is 30 vs Cheikh 27), they just bring slightly different things to the table despite having some overlapping qualities.

In his prime, Prince averaged 15-5-6 with 3 steals and 2 blocks while shooting 45/85/42. He also had sick defensive 1-9s. There is no way you can convince me that you would pick prime Senghor over prime Prince in any situation. Stop that.

MemphisX · 01-31-2013, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kidd

In his prime, Prince averaged 15-5-6 with 3 steals and 2 blocks while shooting 45/85/42. He also had sick defensive 1-9s. There is no way you can convince me that you would pick prime Senghor over prime Prince in any situation. Stop that.

They are still the same level of player. Just because you don't like Senghor's contract does not change that fact.

Kidd · 01-31-2013, 07:24 AM

Nah they're really not, but let's just agree to disagree.

omer51 · 01-31-2013, 07:40 AM

I think Mahoney is the real overated player here...

**BlakeJesus** · 01-31-2013, 11:12 AM

Why do you think that omer?

omer51 · 01-31-2013, 11:30 AM

At first i was trying to fool you after the redundant argument about Senghor but after i saw his rating i realize he's more similar to players like Pennigton or Victor Manning at prime time, I can't see the similarity Welland.

**BlakeJesus** · 01-31-2013, 11:45 AM

Interesting take...I absolutely disagree, but you're certainly allowed to have your own opinion. Time will tell I suppose.

01-30-2013, 10:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
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01-30-2013, 10:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
Kidd Legend Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 10,843 Rep Power: 2840327	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston We have different opinions as to whether you are overrating Senghor.

01-30-2013, 10:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
King Joseus Ooh Baby, Ooh Baby Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA! USA! USA! Age: 25 Posts: 35,072 Rep Power: 9733648	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston lol You should send me some RFA offers instead of this riff raff, Brian. All I've got so far is some offers from some fictional Chinese team. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

01-30-2013, 11:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
Kidd Legend Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 10,843 Rep Power: 2840327	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston Around a quarter of our home games are going to be played in Hong Kong this upcoming season. Sort of a test-period (just a formality) before we make the move.

01-30-2013, 11:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
King Joseus Ooh Baby, Ooh Baby Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA! USA! USA! Age: 25 Posts: 35,072 Rep Power: 9733648	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston Been reading too much fiction lately. __________________ Interested in joining the KVBL? PM me for information.

01-31-2013, 04:56 AM	#21 (permalink)
Smath All-Star Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tel-Aviv Israel Posts: 5,263 Rep Power: 344832	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston btw about Senghor , hes a nice player , but criminally over payed. __________________ KVBL/FRSL - Miami Heat GM 2034 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) 2029 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) 2025 KVBL Champions: Miami Heat (Smath) 2016-2017 FRSL Champions

01-31-2013, 05:35 AM	#22 (permalink)
fsecreast Star Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston Posts: 3,140 Rep Power: 234298	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston Lets look at the season before GO reduced Cheikh's minutes in an effort to tank 18.9 PPG(47.5%), 6.1 RPG, 2APG, 2.2 SPG, 1.5 BPG, .9 TPG. Only 2.5 fouls per game. Find me another player who forces that many turnovers without turning it over or fouling a ton and that still can average close to 20 PPG on efficient shooting.

01-31-2013, 07:24 AM	#26 (permalink)
Kidd Legend Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 10,843 Rep Power: 2840327	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston Nah they're really not, but let's just agree to disagree.

01-31-2013, 07:40 AM	#27 (permalink)
omer51 All-Star Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 6,500 Rep Power: 1519483	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston I think Mahoney is the real overated player here... __________________ FRSL commissioner Sonics

01-31-2013, 11:12 AM	#28 (permalink)
BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 17,046 Rep Power: 12803038	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston Why do you think that omer? __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

01-31-2013, 11:30 AM	#29 (permalink)
omer51 All-Star Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 6,500 Rep Power: 1519483	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston At first i was trying to fool you after the redundant argument about Senghor but after i saw his rating i realize he's more similar to players like Pennigton or Victor Manning at prime time, I can't see the similarity Welland. __________________ FRSL commissioner Sonics

01-31-2013, 11:45 AM	#30 (permalink)
BlakeJesus Community Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Age: 23 Posts: 17,046 Rep Power: 12803038	Re: Trade: Atlanta and Boston Interesting take...I absolutely disagree, but you're certainly allowed to have your own opinion. Time will tell I suppose. __________________ Jalen Rose - "Positions were created so the novice could follow the game. You ARE your skillset." 2024 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2026 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks 2027 KVBL Champions: Atlanta Hawks

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