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Old 07-21-2004, 03:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Air Canada a Clipper?

On ESPN they article about Vince Carter's best fit would be in LA as a Clipper...

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What do you guys think?
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Old 07-21-2004, 03:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I thought that he wanted to play in the East.
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Old 07-21-2004, 03:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Of course no doubt his best fit would be the clippers.

However, Its not that tangible. 1. Toronto doesnt want to trade him, and if they did, it would take more than Q to get him which leads to 2. Clippers probably wouldnt want to give up Q and wilcox or magette and wilcox to get him without first signing someone like keon clark.

Id love to see it myself. A carter/bryant LA rivalry woudl be classic.

Question is..

What do you want to see on the clippers more?

Miles/Wilcox/Q/Magette

or

Carter/Magette

Assuming that the clipps would have to give up wilcox and q to get him, plus not have a shot at miles with the cap space.
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Old 07-21-2004, 03:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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as long as Brand is there there will be little PT for wilcox.

Vince and Magette is very nice combo.
but i doubt AToronto does it.
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Of course no doubt his best fit would be the clippers.

However, Its not that tangible. 1. Toronto doesnt want to trade him, and if they did, it would take more than Q to get him which leads to 2. Clippers probably wouldnt want to give up Q and wilcox or magette and wilcox to get him without first signing someone like keon clark.

Id love to see it myself. A carter/bryant LA rivalry woudl be classic.

Question is..

What do you want to see on the clippers more?

Miles/Wilcox/Q/Magette

or

Carter/Magette

Assuming that the clipps would have to give up wilcox and q to get him, plus not have a shot at miles with the cap space.
Miles/Wilcox/Q/Magette
because they would work more better as a team and make it to the playoffs. they are young and not injury prone like carter.
An example is the Grizzlies they worked as a team and got there. And the pistons worked as a team and the won it all. And the all had good coaches Hubie Brown and Larry Brown, and we do to in Mike Dunleavy.
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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How many times are we gona discuss this?

This isn't going to happen.
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Question is..

What do you want to see on the clippers more?

Miles/Wilcox/Q/Magette

or

Carter/Magette
That really is not the issue.

As much as I want Miles, so far, all its been is fan talk. There is not one shred of evidence to assume we have any chance at signing Miles. And there is no guarantee we sign anyone with our left over cap space.

The issue is Wilcox/Q/Maggette or Maggette/Carter.

And IMO, its a no brainer - Its Maggette/Carter. Carter is considerably better than Quentin Richardson. Chris Wilcox right now is only a decent backup. He's got potential, but all he is on the court right now is decent. And he's not going to be around in two years when he hits FA and gets a bigger contract from another team.

If we could get Vince for Q and Wilcox, do it. You accept as soon as its offered. It improves the Clippers scoring out put, ball handling, defense(Maggette moves back to the 2, where he is above average, and Vince is a better defender than Q, though neither player is special). Most importantly it gives us another star. Q is solid, but he is no star, and doesnt look like he ever will be. If the upgrade from Q to Vince only costs Wilcox, you have to do it.

But, I dont know if Toronto is willing to accept that deal. It's on them to decide.
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Old 07-21-2004, 05:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Ask yourselves, why would Toronto do a deal for Carter and not demand Mags back in return?

With Bosh and Araujo what do they need Wilcox for?

They don't.

So Q and Wilcox is wishful thinking by fans..

Where has it said anywhere that the Clips were even interested in Carter?

This has all been fan talk just like signing D Miles.

And lastly to answer Yamaneko's question, there's no way in hell I'd rather have Carter and Mags than the other situation, Carter and Mags combined will miss 40 games of year.
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Old 07-21-2004, 05:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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This thread is based off a Sam Smith article?

Ya, that explains it all.
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Old 07-21-2004, 06:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Vince carter on the clippers would be very logical.

PG- Livingston
SG- VC
SF- Maggs
PF- Brand
C - Kaman

Go clips! lol. (im saying this because that would be a very good team. although im not a clips fan)

That would be an exciting team. VEERRY exciting
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Old 07-21-2004, 06:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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1) If the Clippers match the offer sheet for Richardson, he can't be traded until December 15th.

2) Richardson has to sign off on any trade deal made in the first year of his new contract. Do you think he'd agree to a trade to a Carter-less Toronto? A team with even less chance of making the playoffs than the Clippers?
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I believe that the trade from

toronto's standpoint is a pure salary cap move (implied by Sam Smith)

They give up
Vince, Alvin, and Lammond Murray
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Q

They dump salary to get a shot at a star next year...Wilcox i believe was not part of the deal....
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This deal makes no sense. The Clips give up all of their precious cap room for... Alvin Williams and Lamond Murray? WTF? Sam Smith proves once again that he is a *******.
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1) If the Clippers match the offer sheet for Richardson, he can't be traded until December 15th.
He can be traded before December 15th, as long as he agrees to the deal. He can't go to Phoenix, and he has to agree to a trade. Those are the only stipulations to trading him.

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2) Richardson has to sign off on any trade deal made in the first year of his new contract. Do you think he'd agree to a trade to a Carter-less Toronto? A team with even less chance of making the playoffs than the Clippers?
Who knows. But, if it gives him an oppurtunity to play with Darius Miles again, Im sure he would be all for it. Toronto would have plenty of cap room, and with Miles likely to take the Q offer, rather than sign a long term deal, he would be available to play in Toronto next year as a UFA.
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Who knows. But, if it gives him an oppurtunity to play with Darius Miles again, Im sure he would be all for it. Toronto would have plenty of cap room, and with Miles likely to take the Q offer, rather than sign a long term deal, he would be available to play in Toronto next year as a UFA.
You guys act like Q and Miles are bed buddies...

So Q is dying to go to Canada because hey maybe Darius can join him there NEXT YEAR?

As if Q would have any influence on making that happen...

It's fine to discuss things, but I don't even think this worth discussion if you're going to ignore the fact that Maggette would have to be part of a deal for Carter or there would be no deal.
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