yamaneko

Lots of people from the clippers last year arent on the team anymore. Here is how they are doing after 3 games.

Qrich - 29% Fg percentage, 15% 3P percentage, 8 points, 6.7 boards a game

Drobnjak (i was one of the only ones on here sticking up for the guy over all these new guys that clippers picked up) - 21 minutes a game, 9.3 points 57% FG, 4 rebounds

Barnes - 7 points a game

House - 7.5 points a game

Ely - 6 points, 3.5 boards, 2.5 blocks in 16 minutes

So lets see, Qrich i said it would be fine to give him up to get kittles, and clear space to go after a big name next year...so far Q is doing terribly in phoenix.

Drobnjak and ely i said i wanted to keep since they can and have played both center positions...their repacements rebraca and moore are putting out about half of their output.

Barnes i wanted to keep.

House i wanted to keep instead of chalmers.

I know its early, and things will probably change, but its just nice being right 100%. Even if it is probably only going to last a week. :-)

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yamaneko

Update through 12 games...

QRICH - FG Percentage up to a whopping 32% from 29, and his 3 point FT% he has REALLY increased to an incredible 26%

DROBS: STILL averagin over 9 points a game. well over 50% FG%.

Barnes: Down to 4 points a game

House: up to 11 points a game...

Ely: 5 points, 4 rebounds

I thought my predictions would have only lasted for a week, but a month into the season, they are staying strong.

Qrich seems lost this year. Drobs has been consistent, would have liked to have kept him instead of n'diyaye and rebraca. Rebraca were paying 2.5 million to sit on the bench.

Barnes definately would be a plus on the clippers now with livingston, kittles, and magette out.

House, who i seemed to be the only one who liked, is putting up a lot of points so far...again, cant tell me youd rather have chalmers than him.

Ely: Same old stead 5 point ely numbers. With him though, SO FAR, i like to have moore as the back up center as opposed to ely, so thats one player im not too sad anymore that we dont have.

Ill give another update in a few weeks....

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Derelict

Yes Yes and Yes. Drobnjak is still horrible defensively and you're still comaparing him to Rebraca as if they play the same minutes. Drobnjak would not get those minutes if he was here and if you watched Rebraca in the Golden State game you know why he is better than Drobnjak. He actually has post moves.

House can't play point and would still get done in by opposing 1's and 2's on the defensive end. He would be on the IR just like Chalmers, the only difference is he wouldn't take it as well as chalmers.

Where would Barnes be on the roster if we only wanted to carry 14 and with Dunleavy's preference of players? With the injuries we have we still wouldn't have any room on the active roster for Barnes who we could have snapped up like that if Dunleavy wanted him. I have no idea what Dunleavy's plans for Mamadou are but NO Barnes would not replace him on the roster or active roster. Somehow I think he is there for defense and free fouls(5 before he fouls out) on big centers.

yamaneko

Rebraca hasnt showed me much defensively. And also your other point is my point. No need to get rid of drob, if you were going to replace him with a clone of himself. He had some post moves in that game, but still missed 3 out of 5 shots, and had a foul every 3 minutes he played. His post moves, when he makes them, definately look better than drobs did. But then again, drobs also had a better outside shot than him...comes out in a wash. If we were just going to get rid of drobs, i say we should have just gotten rid of him...why get someone very similar to him, but who cant even work himself up the depth chart like drobs could.

House would never be on IR, just as he wasnt when he was on the clippers (the fake IR, that is, like chalmers is on). House did playproductuve point minutes last year on the clippers, and thats besides the point since he would be playing most at the shooting guard. They have tried chalmers at both positions, and he managed one basket the whole season. Im comparing house to chalmers. House is averaging 12 points, chalmers 0.5. If house were on the clipps now, he would be playing minutes with the injuries.

Barnes i wanted on the roster instead of having 1000 7 footers, as i have been saying since before the season. You cant tell me that you wouldnt want to have barnes on the team instead of paying rebraca 2.5 million, or nidiyaye to sit on the bench. He DEFINATELY would be on the roster now, and rebraca or nidyaye would be on IR even if they all were healthy, and on the team. Heck, CHALMERS would be on the active roster right now if they didnt have to wait until he was eligible to come off....

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Derelict

House would not be on the active roster and thus not be getting minutes. The reason that Chalmers went on IR was because Brunson was a better backup point guard than chalmers. House as you said is not a point guard. We need a backup point guard more than we would need a third shooting guard on the active roster(maggs, ross, and House would make 3). House is a defensive liability at point and shooting guard, just like Brunson, but Brunson can run the point and House cannot.

You're right though, house would never be on injured reserve. He would ask for a release like Rice did.

Drobs outside shot is probably better than Rebraca but I don't want my center 20 feet away from the basket and shooting 3-pointers if he makes them at a .306(what he shot last year from the 3 point line for us) percentage.

With the way wilcox and Moore have been playing and Kaman back, I think we would be pushing our luck if we could have got a player who leapfrog one of them on the depth chart for $2.5 mil and would sign here.

Like I said before about Mamadou, we're carrying him for something. We needed Chalmers more than him, but I don't think he would want to stay with us if we asked him to go on IR. I would have liked to see what would have happend if Liv hadn't got injured and we needed to activate Kaman because I don't think Rebraca would have gone either.

I would like to have another backup small forward on the team besides Rebraca or Ndiaye(which I dont know) but not Barnes. His jumper wasn't consistent and sometimes he took over Piatkowski's role as "Mr. And One" on defense. But no I don't think Barnes would be on the active roster right now. I could be 100% wrong, we'll see when Chalmers is elgible to come off IR.

yamaneko

House would be getting minutes over ross and brunson at the SG, because if house was on the whole year, they wouldnt have been able to see what ross can do, and house was the proven player. There is NO WAY house would have been on the IR. Chalmers was put there because he is shooting like 1 for november, and was not the defensive stopper he was supposed to be.

Brunson definately has more PG skills than house, but also house has the outside shot, plus the experience of taking and making clutch shots.

Didnt say i wanted drobs shooting 3 pointers. I dont think he should either. I like him shooting mid range jump shots though, that stretch the defense, and make the other teams center guard outside, setting up driving lanes for the other players.

Barnes definately would be on the roster. Theres no way that the clippers need 4 7 footers, plus wilcox, your starting center on the roster at the same time.

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TheClipSHow11

house is a nice player...... but he isn't much of a defender, im positive i would rather have q ross. Drob is a joke....... he HURTS your team when he steps on the court. He has the mindset of Kobe whenever he touches the ball.... and he lacks interior anything. He might be having a nice offensive year - but he should warrant ZERO playing time on any TEAM. The key word is TEAM - air drobniak is a nice player for an expansion team that is playing like a bunch of individuals.....

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TheClipSHow11

I agree with you about House and his clutch shots. I recall 2 three's at the end of regulation last year........ one to win a game, and the other to send a game to OT. But do you remember the Bulls game earlier this year? - Bruson played maybe 3 minutes and hit a huge shot as time expired going into the half....... They won by 1. That was pretty clutch in retrospec. Anyone check out Brunson's A/T ratio lately? It is through the roof.

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TheClipSHow11

This is was yamamenko said about Mikki Moore:

yama ------- you can put your foot in your mouth now........ but i am sure you are glad you are wrong about Mikki.

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yamaneko

What do you mean i can put my foot in my mouth now? I think you have your phrases mixed up.

As I said before, im glad moore has turned out....I also have said that although i badmouthed ariza before, it turns out we should have gotten him as well. However, one thing i did say about moore which was true was that he is not comfortable playing PF...hes neve rplayed extensive playing time there. Originally the clippers got him as a Center, and at the time he was the 4th 7 foot center on the team, 5th center signed, if youre counting wilcox (6th, if you consider that at the time, josh moore was not cut yet). So in retrospect, the signing did not make any sense at the time. They should have gotten HIM first, and NOT rebraca, and/nor n"diyaye. However, then it was announced that they wanted to play him at PF, which i mentioned scared me since he hadnt played there much. Then, kaman went down with an injury, giving him playing time at his natural position, Center, where he has flourished. In the games i have watched, he still is way better at that position than when they put in someone else, and move him to PF. I said before i hope that hes able to learn the PF position since the clippers are then there, and i still do hope that.

Until brunson hits a game winning, then i give house the edge on clutch shots at the buzzer, hes been doing it since college. But you have to love brunson's assist ratio...like i said...both players have their strong and weak points.

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Starbury03

House was wavied to make room for Kareem Rush.

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yamaneko

Time for an update:

QRICH - FG Percentage up to a whopping 37% from 32, and his 3 point FT% he has increased to 34% from 26%

DROBS: Now up to 10 points a game, 4 boards, 49%FG, 80%FT, 46%3pointers.

Barnes: Down to 3 points a game

House: down to 8 points a game since hes not getting PT in sactown....

Ely: now up to 6 points, 1 block a game.

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Kekai

Is Ely starting for the Cats?