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emplay · 12-27-2004, 01:51 PM

It's also in local print - my Hoopsworld article wasn't fiction - whether a deal happens is no lock though.

http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index...4247104950.xml

TheClipSHow11 · 12-27-2004, 02:13 PM

if there is any god in clipperdom......... this will happen.

PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE

DONALD??????? PLEASE?????

**Weasel** · 12-27-2004, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by arenas809!

Hey Weasel, Chad Ford talked about it today.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/columns...CMP=ILC-INHEAD

It's an insider article though.

Thats good. I don't have insider but it is good to see that ESPN has now commented on it. Hopefully this means that trade talks aren't dead and the ball will be moving shortly.

Zuca · 12-27-2004, 04:12 PM

Wilcox, Kittles and Jaric (even with a pick) for Baron (maybe including George Lynch?) will be sweet for your team... and for NO too!

**HKF** · 12-27-2004, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Zuca!
Wilcox, Kittles and Jaric (even with a pick) for Baron (maybe including George Lynch?) will be sweet for your team... and for NO too!

I never did a deal including Lynch, but if it works under the cap, then the Clippers should get Lynch too. Reason why? Lynch only has one more year left and is a good veteran.

Edit: And I just did it and it works under the cap, since the Clips are under the salary cap.

New Orleans trades: PG Baron Davis (22.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 6.4 apg in 31.6 minutes)
SF George Lynch (4.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.3 apg in 24.3 minutes)
New Orleans receives: SG Kerry Kittles (5.6 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 2.4 apg in 22.2 minutes)
PF Chris Wilcox (10.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.3 minutes)
PG Marko Jaric (11.0 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 6.4 apg in 35.5 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.9 ppg, +3.8 rpg, and +1.0 apg.

L.A. Clippers trades: SG Kerry Kittles (5.6 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 2.4 apg in 22.2 minutes)
PF Chris Wilcox (10.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.3 minutes)
PG Marko Jaric (11.0 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 6.4 apg in 35.5 minutes)
L.A. Clippers receives: PG Baron Davis (22.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 6.4 apg in 31.6 minutes)
SF George Lynch (4.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.3 apg in 24.3 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -0.9 ppg, -3.8 rpg, and -1.0 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to New Orleans and L.A. Clippers being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. New Orleans and L.A. Clippers had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

**Weasel** · 12-27-2004, 04:24 PM

OT: This has been one of the biggest threads in the Clippers boards for a REALLY long time.
Keep it up!

**EHL** · 12-27-2004, 08:47 PM

When is Magloire due back, and why do you think he's going to be traded cheap to another team HKF? Isn't he young talent that the Hornets can build around?

**HKF** · 12-27-2004, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by EHL!
When is Magloire due back, and why do you think he's going to be traded cheap to another team HKF? Isn't he young talent that the Hornets can build around?

Hopefully by the middle of next month. I don't expect Magloire to still be there, for the simple fact, that he is playing very inconsistently and he doesn't play hard every night. Now I knpw people saw him in the AS game last year, but that was due to the weakness of the Eastern Conference at his position. He is not competing hard out there for the Hornets, so why not trade him to a team like Seattle and get back Radman and Potapenko for him, while giving the Sonics a legit center to try and win the West.

I guarantee when he comes back to a team that will be like 3-30, without B Diddy, that he will sulk and mail it in. Trade him while he has high value. Start all over with young talent and cap room and rebuild with guys who want to play there.

All those guys in NO, don't want to play there. Might as well deal them out ASAP and get something good in return.

**EHL** · 12-27-2004, 09:22 PM

Oh OK, I didn't get the sense that Magloire was sort of mailing it in already, or that he's unhappy. I've only caught a few Hornets games this season, for obvious reasons.

arenas809 · 12-28-2004, 12:53 PM

Now that the Hornets have Jim Jackson, the ultimate trade would be to do 2 seperate trades so Jackson could be included, ultimately the deal would be...

Clippers Trade:
Chris Wilcox
Kerry Kittles
Zeljko Rebraca
Marko Jaric

Hornets Trade:
Baron Davis
Jim Jackson
George Lynch

Why do the Clips do it? We become an instant playoff team.

Why do the Hornets do it? To help facilitate their rebuilding process. Jaric could be used to recruit Radman in the offseason, they get a potential all-star talent in Wilcox, and immediate cap relief from JJ's and Lynch's deals.

emplay · 12-28-2004, 03:49 PM

I've heard the Hornets are planning on keeping JJ - though if he is a malcontent - that could change.

Clippers aren't under the cap any more - they can't make trades using cap space - but the deal works straight up anyway:

Kittles, Wilcox, Jaric + Rebraca

for Baron and Lynch

The Lynch wrinkle does not come from my original sources - so take that with a grain of salt.

**HKF** · 12-28-2004, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by emplay!
I've heard the Hornets are planning on keeping JJ - though if he is a malcontent - that could change.

Clippers aren't under the cap any more - they can't make trades using cap space - but the deal works straight up anyway:

Kittles, Wilcox, Jaric + Rebraca

for Baron and Lynch

The Lynch wrinkle does not come from my original sources - so take that with a grain of salt.

The Clippers can do a Rebraca, Kittles, Jaric a pick for Baron and Lynch and then do a Wilcox for JJ deal. It works under the cap.

jokeaward · 12-28-2004, 04:40 PM

Wilcox: "Sweet, I get to play with Baron Davis instead of Jaric!"
Baylor: "Hello, Chris..."

**Weasel** · 12-28-2004, 05:13 PM

I don't see why this trade wouldn't go through seeing how the Clippers have been getting destroyed in the month of December. The team is playing like there needs to be a change and soon.

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