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Old 01-03-2003, 02:51 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Jazzy I'd be willing to bet you haven't seen him play since he came back huh.
Hes even better than SHAQ
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Old 01-03-2003, 02:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Also remember the guy has only played TWO SEASONS!!!!

How good was Shaq, T-MAC, Kidd, TD, and KOBE their first two seasons.

You can't compare a guy who's played two seasons with T-MAC and Kobe, and Kidd and Duncan who have all hit their prime.
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Also remember the guy has only played TWO SEASONS!!!!

How good was Shaq, T-MAC, Kidd, TD, and KOBE their first two seasons.

You can't compare a guy who's played two seasons with T-MAC and Kobe, and Kidd and Duncan who have all hit their prime.
Shaq, Kidd and TD were beasts their first 2 seasons.
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Shaq, Kidd and TD were beasts their first 2 seasons.
Yeah I was reaching, but would you have considered Kidd, Kobe or Tmac top 5 after their first 2 seasons. KG and TD you could, and shaq well shaq is an abnormality.
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Odoms skillz are ILL!

The Heat will sign Odom this summer and Riles will turn him into the SUPER-STAR he should already be!All Odom needs is a coach that will force him to play up to his potential,and WONT allow him to hit the pipe!Riles can do both!Next season Odom in a Heat uni will put up 18-20pts 8-10reb 4-5ast 1blk a game!

Is Odom as GREAT as K.G. right now?NO!Does he have the potential to be that good?U better believe he does!
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Well I'm watching him against the Grizz right now, ignoring the fact that the Clipps gave up about 20 open 15 footers in one half Lamar is getting to the hole at will. I thought he had a bum ankle? This guy is a superior player to Elton Brand and I'm glad to see one Clipper fan that doesn't think they should of traded him instead of Miles.
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This guy is a superior player to Elton Brand and I'm glad to see one Clipper fan that doesn't think they should of traded him instead of Miles.
I wouldnt say all that. Elton Brand has been putting in work the last season and a half hes been here. Elton's very underrated and he has the respect of his teammates.
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AMiller is the 3rd best pg

Brand is the 3rd best PF

Odom is the 3rd best SF

Kandi is the 3rd best C

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Collectively they made the Clippers probably the 3rd worst team in the West. How ironic. LOL.
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You can't blame a guy for getting injured things happen.

In three games back after missing an entire season (calender year) and off season.

15 ppg 9 rpg 3 apg 1 bpg

And you don't think he's rusty...........just wait.

Those are decent numbers, but a guy like Amare Stoudemire has been putting up numbers better than that the last couple weeks.

One thing about Odom, I dont think he has done much to improve since he came into the league. He doesnt look like he has lifted a weight since he was drafted. To me, that shows no desire to get better. Especially when you are a 6'9"-6'10" player..
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Let me go ahead and add my two cent

Talent Wise Odom is for sure a top 10 player. Name someone in NBA with his height (6-10) that has the ability he does. Who in the NBA can play four postions more effectively then Lamar? He is like a taller more atlethic version of Magic. If I had to envision the perfect package for a player he would be it. Good height,superior passing ability,dribbles,court vision, etc.

Bottom Line.He will be a top ten player in the NBA by years end. Mark my words like I said on the Clipper board it's time to start jumping on the band wagon before it's to late.
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Odoms skillz are ILL!

The Heat will sign Odom this summer
You sure Odom is the only one whos been hitting that pipe?
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Odom...better than Shaq?
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You sure Odom is the only one whos been hitting that pipe?
What if Riley offered him a max contract Sterling will match it? Riley has been in love with Odom's game since he first worked out for him. How often are you guys going to let Donald break your hearts?
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Jazzy I'd be willing to bet you haven't seen him play since he came back huh.
I've seen him play since he's been back I saw him tonight but so what they've been losing since he's been back and they lost tonight. He is a major talent but thats not enough he's a fat head for a leader and doesn't seem to have the toughness or the ability to just totally dominate games.

Jkidd, Kobe, TMac, Shaq ,TD, can all take over games and be truly dominant, Odom just can't he gives you alittle bit of everything but not awhole lotta of one thing. He's alow level stat sheet stuffer, like 13pt 7 rebs 6 assist 2 stls and a block. Thats not dominant its good but to be elite you have to be able to get 30 and 10 , or Jkidds, 25pt 15 assists level games occasionally. . I mean take over dominant.

Odom's going to get Gentry canned not by Odom's fault alone but by the fact that he can't be counted on. If he's truly an elite player the suspensions, injuries are enough to wreck a franchise because they lean so heavly on his production. If thats not the case then he isn't that valuable and not a top ten player. See the point is Elite players absorb the blame when things go wrong and the finger is pointed directly at those guys, thats why Shaq ,Kobe, and TMac get so much flack when things go wrong. They also get all the credit and I'd doubt anyone ever puts that mantle on him.

And no way Riley wrecks the Heat giving Odom the Max won't happen no way in Hell . riley's no fool he hasn't been that successful giving Max paper to a player as unreliable as Odom is.

Can he turn it around sure if he truly believes he has totally remake his attitude and his game. But I just don't see it happening ,his attitude is just too relaxed and laid back ,he does enough to keep people off his butt but not enough to achieve elite status. The talent is there but not the intangibles.
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