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Old 07-01-2005, 09:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Clippers to make a big offer to Allen

Seattle will be loosing some of their players from last year, which many still view as a fluke, yet the clippers retain their key players hopefully if they get simmons back, so it seems to be a better situation.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:01 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Clippers to make a big offer to Allen

Seattle will only be taking a hit if Allen wants to leave. I think that will be the force that gets the ball rolling.
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Re: Clippers to make a big offer to Allen

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Although final details of the new collective bargaining agreement are not yet available, it is thought the Sonics could offer Allen a contract for as much as $115 million over six years. It is unlikely, however, they will offer more than their current proposal of $75 million.

The team also seems unlikely to offer a sixth season because of Allen’s age. He will turn 30 this month.
From a seattle newspaper. I do think that if thats true, the clippers have an excellent chance. Clippers can even offer more than seattle is now, or they could go all out and arrange a sign and trade at the max.

The age thing doesnt bother me for a couple of reasons. Allen is in his prime right now. Even him at 90% his prime in his 3rd/4th year of his contract is worth more than most people in the league. Also, the contracts are now one year less. The clippers by then, even if he really drops off in talent, will most likely still have their allen houston exception available, allowing them to spend more money without taking a luxury tax hit by letting him go.
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Re: Clippers to make a big offer to Allen

It also says the Clippers won't offer him a 5-year deal, meaning they have a 0% chance of signing him.
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Good the offer has been extended. I don't see how people can assume where he wants to go unless they are Ray Allen. He will do what he does.
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Re: Clippers to make a big offer to Allen

Allen isn't signing with the Clippers. I think we know this don't we? Why are they even wasting their time on him? Try to get Larry Hughes instead.
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“Obviously, I look at different things. But most guys in free agency want to see that the organization is moving forward. Most guys think championship. There are no guarantees, no matter who you sign with. When the Lakers signed all those guys a few years ago, there was no guarantee they were going to win a championship. And they didn’t. Jason Kidd put himself in a position to win a championship in New Jersey, and he hasn’t won one. But that’s all you hope you can accomplish is to put yourself in a good position.”
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Re: Clippers to make a big offer to Allen

One positive the Clippers have is that they played Seattle very well. And I heard on a pre-game breakdown before a Seattle, Clipper game that the Seattle coaches felt that the Clippers where the toughest team for them to match-up aganist.
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Re: Clippers to make a big offer to Allen

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One positive the Clippers have is that they played Seattle very well. And I heard on a pre-game breakdown before a Seattle, Clipper game that the Seattle coaches felt that the Clippers where the toughest team for them to match-up aganist.
True, the way I see it, a lot of good teams had trouble matching up against the Clippers front court. But well, in terms of Seattle, they didn't outrun the Clippers like Phoenix did, and they had a small line up.

Of course Allen would also make it tough for teams to match the Clips back court.
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Re: Clippers to make a big offer to Allen

ok i put up stats of maggs vs pierce, now maggs vs allen
PPG: Allen - 23.9 Maggs - 22.2
RPG: Allen - 4.4 Maggs - 6
APG: Allen - 3.7 Maggs - 3.4
FG%: Allen - 42.8% Maggs - 43.1%
3PT%: Allen - 37.6% Maggs - 30.4%
FT%: Allen - 88.3% Maggs - 85.7%
SPG: Allen - 1.08 Maggs - 1.06
BPG: Allen - .06 Maggs - .12

take your pick, same #'s pretty much, corey's younger and cheaper
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Allen doesn't make the last minute mistakes though.
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Re: Clippers to make a big offer to Allen

yea he doesn't true, but Maggs is improving, i mean we didn't have any real big last minute moments til this past season. we went 4-13 in games decided under 3 points, the rest of the years, did we even have 10 games decided by 10 points or less total? corey has never been in a real last minute situation, i mean the 2 games after we beat the grizz (durin the f'ed up road trip we always have) maggs didn't touch the ball the last possession. or the game at home against pistons(man i hate bringing it up) double ot loss, i didn't see maggs with a chance to win the game for us. he never gets the ball in his hands except against the heat, and even if he did and messed up, he gains experience which he can use this coming season. keep corey, keep simmons, trade wilcox for wright, call sofo over, keep rebraca and playoffs in 06
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Wilcox for Wright sounds good.
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