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Starbury03 · 07-12-2005, 11:01 AM

I would neve do that because of Livingston and Brand plus Kaman I love watching those guys. If they didnt have players like that then I would boycott. We as Clippers fans just get to excited that there actually gonna become a playoff team. I am just gonna sit back and enjoy watching them and if they make the playoffs great and if they dont oh well, i cant control it.

swift88 · 07-12-2005, 11:17 AM

Frankly, I think we are almost there. All we need is a more aggresive/consistent center, a shooter, and as much important is a winning coach. We have great players, brand, mags and Livingston that's our nucleus. But we gotta play aggresive, make a name of ourselves.

Kapt Clipper · 07-12-2005, 07:05 PM

We as Clipper fans have to support the team regardless of who is on it...of course we would love to have an abundance of role players with 1 or 2 super stars eg Kobe, LaBron, Baron, etc...but we can kind of see it with this team now with EB and Cory as our potential superstars and Kaman, Livingston, & Marko/Cutino (?) the great supporting cast with Q Ross, Mikki, Z, Wilcox, and perhaps Ewing & Chalmers giving their game when called upon...it still takes teamwork and belief in your teammates especially, to win...that's up to Coach Mike.

LA68 · 07-13-2005, 02:51 AM

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You Got To Be Crazy! U Called Brand A Mediocre Pf? Pass Me Some Of That Chronic U R Smoking Cuz U R Freakin High. Brand Is One Of The Best Pf In The League. The West Is Loaded With Pf Or He Would Be An All Star Every Year. Its Kind Of Tough To Get Respect In The West When Duncan And Kg At Pf. Im So Tired Of Laker Fans. When U Lose U Make Excuses And Can Never Admit Ur Front Office Has Screwed Up Ur Team . Dont Worry About Our Sf Position. We Are Gonna Get Mobley And Corey Will Go Back To Sf Where He Is More Affective. You Want To Talk About Our Roster, Please Look At Ur Own. No Pg, No C, No Sf, And Pf Who Is Better At Rolling A Joint Than Posting Up. Dont Forget Who Was Looking Up At Who At The End Of Last Season . If U Watched Any Clips Games U Would Have Noticed That We Had Numerous Injuries Last Year. We Had To Play With Rick Brunson And Darrick Martin As Our Pg. We Were Still Better Than The Fakers And This Year Will Be No Different. There Are Still A Lot Of Fa's Out There.

There is no way to weed through all that. So I will simply say this is not a Laker thread. Don't concern yourself with that team. You said the magic words, "in there somewhere" . The west is loaded! How do you expect to win if that is the case ? What you have simply is not enough.

Players around this league love L.A. You have a built in drawing card! Idiots talk about KG coming to LAL, which will never happen. But LAC has talent to get somebody like that! Most top stars would love to be in Hollywood (except maybe Duncan).

The Clips have no cap problems, Have talent to deal. But, this crew will play hard but, not go over the top. My Lakers may be the only team you can finish ahead of in the pacific. Having a better lottery record than the Lakers means nothing. You can set you sights higher than that! Get in the playoffs!

Just a few years ago, the Nuggets and Warriors sucked. Now they have very exciting teams. They went out and got some players with playoff experience who want to win.

And why the hell is Kaman playing in the summer when he just had Shin Splints during the season. He should be in the weight room!

**Pioneer10** · 07-13-2005, 10:51 AM

Go ahead and be a fan: watch the games, talk about them on BBb.net but do NOT line Sterling's pockets. As long as people come to Staples and watch games, drink beer, buy jerseys, etc, he has no incentive what so ever to change his business model.

Plain old capitalism at work - if you want change stop making it profitable. If you want to blindly follow go ahead as well just don't expect anything different in the future

**CDRacingZX6R** · 07-13-2005, 12:18 PM

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Well since you share our arena, you should not mind me. Good Nuclei do not finish in lotteries. Sterling has conned you once again. He could not care less about winning as long as he makes his profits. You can't even hang on to Jaric ?? Who is your SF again ??

You fans have got to stand up against this. Vote with your pocketbook!

My Lakers may never win again, but,at least they do try! We win 33 games and call it a disaster. You call it "good nucleus" and "good role players" You whole team is role players!! Those are not stars! Sterling will not pay for that. Manning,C Smith, D. Smith,...I have been through it all before.

Drafted Jaric as this foreigner who would do all these things. He finally came and now he is gone. This new guy will take his place. Wait a few years ,come to L.A. then leave. Schortsanitis anyone ???

What is the plan here?? Wear out your center in summer league? Depend on a mediocre Pf who can't guard anyone and disappears in the fourth?? Livingston will be injured his whole Clipper career, all stars are.

They do not take care of their players, or their fans.

I agree with all of that..

Except that you consider Brand a medicore PF. I'm sorry but medicore PF's dont average 20/10 a season, and are 2nd in the league in offensive rebounding, 8th in the leauge for total rebounding, 7th in the leauge for double doubles, 9th in blocks per game, 5th in total blocks.. Sure he is short... But it hasn't affected his game much. He is one of the better PF's in the game, and should have been an Allstar more seasons than just that one.

DaFranchise · 07-13-2005, 01:40 PM

go home faker fan and take your car flag with you

LA68 · 07-13-2005, 03:04 PM

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go home faker fan and take your car flag with you

I am home, You play in my house! I have been watching the Clips since they came to L.A. I have seen this same cycle over and over. Charles Smith was the "good" forward who should be an all star, Benoit was the "up and coming center" Sterling will never get this franchise the credibility it needs to take the next step.

As long as you give him your money ,he doesn't have to.

And I have no idea why you keep bringing up Lakers, being better than them doesn't mean much today! I haven't said one bragging word about them here. Only Clip fans have "Laker on the brain"

Why compare yourself to another losing lotto team like the Lakers. You should be watching Gst. with B Davis or Sac , Phx. Those are teams you have to beat to get to the playoffs. The Lakers are behind you, for now...

TheClipSHow11 · 07-13-2005, 04:07 PM

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I am home, You play in my house! I have been watching the Clips since they came to L.A. I have seen this same cycle over and over. Charles Smith was the "good" forward who should be an all star, Benoit was the "up and coming center" Sterling will never get this franchise the credibility it needs to take the next step.

As long as you give him your money ,he doesn't have to.

And I have no idea why you keep bringing up Lakers, being better than them doesn't mean much today! I haven't said one bragging word about them here. Only Clip fans have "Laker on the brain"

Why compare yourself to another losing lotto team like the Lakers. You should be watching Gst. with B Davis or Sac , Phx. Those are teams you have to beat to get to the playoffs. The Lakers are behind you, for now...

History is what it is. But i grew up an Angel Fan - who in 2000 was getting dubbed as one of the worst franchises in baseball (being notoriously bad for years, hadn't made the playoffs in 15 years, this is while the dodgers were getting blown by every media outlet possible - what has happened now??? I also grew up a Rams fan - same stigma (i think they had the second worst winning percentage in the 90's <aside from the bengals>) - then they have been a media darling and a winner. So all this History talk - thats great - but what happens today is what matters.

And you mention giving up your money to Sterling - have you priced a Laker game lately?? for a LOOSING PRODUCT!!!?

TheClipSHow11 · 07-13-2005, 04:11 PM

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History is what it is. But i grew up an Angel Fan - who in 2000 was getting dubbed as one of the worst franchises in baseball (being notoriously bad for years, hadn't made the playoffs in 15 years, this is while the dodgers were getting blown by every media outlet possible - what has happened now??? I also grew up a Rams fan - same stigma (i think they had the second worst winning percentage in the 90's <aside from the bengals>) - then they have been a media darling and a winner. So all this History talk - thats great - but what happens today is what matters.

And you mention giving up your money to Sterling - have you priced a Laker game lately?? for a LOOSING PRODUCT!!!?

And how sweet it is to watch a looser turn into a winner - and be a fan the WHOLE time. I know this very well. Read Phil Jackson's book - he says the BEST thing about following, coaching, or playing sports is watching a group of people come together, grow and succeed. Watching Brand, Kaman, Mags, Shawn, and the rest of the bunch grow the past few years has been awesome - they have struggled and then some, but all real clipper fans know the room for potential - and let me tell you. It will be SWEET.

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