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03-27-2006, 04:30 PM
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Re: Maggs whining again!
Well maggs is lucky that mobley got injured, because if not, he wouldnt be starting still.
Im not sweating it neither. Maggs still has a few weeks to bring his defense up, lessen the bad plays, get his explosiveness and shot back. If he can do it, I cant see anyone wanting to face us in the playoffs.
As far as maggs being traded, i dont see how he would be unless were getting like paul pierce, or another great SF back, and/or we resign vlad to a long term deal. No way is he traded if we dont resign vlad.
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03-27-2006, 05:43 PM
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Re: Maggs whining again!
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Well maggs is lucky that mobley got injured, because if not, he wouldnt be starting still.
Im not sweating it neither. Maggs still has a few weeks to bring his defense up, lessen the bad plays, get his explosiveness and shot back. If he can do it, I cant see anyone wanting to face us in the playoffs.
As far as maggs being traded, i dont see how he would be unless were getting like paul pierce, or another great SF back, and/or we resign vlad to a long term deal. No way is he traded if we dont resign vlad.
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maggs isnt going to be traded. its hard to find another 20 point scorer with the same salary on his contract. but he needs to shut the hell up and do wat dun says.
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03-27-2006, 06:25 PM
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Re: Maggs whining again!
Corey is still a good player in my book...he should remember that it's not who starts a game but who finishes...by coming off the bench and adding scoring punch to our the reserves, he can totally impact the game...if he is playing better than the starter (eg Ross), coach Mike would not hesitate to use him late in the game when it mattered.
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03-27-2006, 07:34 PM
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Re: Maggs whining again!
if he could only go back to how he was playing early in the season, when we were in 1st in the
division, he would get his usual FT's , drives to the hoops, and 1's and he was knocking a
good percentage of his shots down
we need that for the playoffs, and damn ima be more than happy to just be a part of the playoffs
but we need Corey to excel to make a push , we are in we might as well make it deep!!!
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03-27-2006, 09:22 PM
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Re: Maggs whining again!
Yamaneko & qrichfan are bonafide Maggette-haters... both still swinging on Artest's nuts too.
Maggette is the best SF (& probably SG) on the team, plain and simple. I don't care what "match up" crap Dunleavy has on his mind, you don't sit the co-captain of the team and disrespect him like that.
Dunleavy definitely plays favorites instead of doing what's best for the team, tell me why else McCarty gets more time than Singleton?
Dunleavy is a good GM, but he's lost it as a coach, if it wasn't for Cassell being the floor general, Dunleavy would be out of a job at this point.
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03-27-2006, 09:49 PM
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Yamaneko & qrichfan are bonafide Maggette-haters... both still swinging on Artest's nuts too.
Maggette is the best SF (& probably SG) on the team, plain and simple. I don't care what "match up" crap Dunleavy has on his mind, you don't sit the co-captain of the team and disrespect him like that.
Dunleavy definitely plays favorites instead of doing what's best for the team, tell me why else McCarty gets more time than Singleton?
Dunleavy is a good GM, but he's lost it as a coach, if it wasn't for Cassell being the floor general, Dunleavy would be out of a job at this point.
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Hear, Hear, Amen to EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID. FINALLY, SOMEONE gets it.
Just like with Wilcox ... Some are saying he's playing for a contract. I say, he has freedom to do what he wanted to do for us and that Dunleavy did the same thing to him that he did to Jermaine Oneal. Haters ... just sit back and watch Wilcox make a fool out of Dunleavy (and his supporters).
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03-27-2006, 10:09 PM
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Re: Maggs whining again!
Couldn't be more true Liedout.
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03-27-2006, 11:49 PM
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Re: Maggs whining again!
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Yamaneko & qrichfan are bonafide Maggette-haters... both still swinging on Artest's nuts too.
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I can only speak for myself, but i wouldnt call calling facts "hating" on a person. Tell me what have I said that can constitute me "hating" Maggette? Have i said we should release him? No. Have I said that I think that he definately should NOT be starting now, with or w/o mobley injured? No. Have I said we should trade maggs for crap? No. In this thread i complained about maggs "whining" again. As I said, im not even saying i DISAGREE 100% with that he should start over ross. But , i DO disagree 100% with him doing what he did in the media. Its just not professional. It messes up team unity especially with some of the things he said. If youd like to argue that what he did actually helps the team, im all ears for your reasoning.
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Maggette is the best SF (& probably SG) on the team, plain and simple. I don't care what "match up" crap Dunleavy has on his mind, you don't sit the co-captain of the team and disrespect him like that.
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Well first of all, again im not saying 100% he shouldnt start. But you have to be able to see both sides of the equation here. First, hes still getting big minutes. Second, the Clippers for the most part are winning with this lineup. Third, hes not a superstar that you have to start even if hes off his game. Fourth, he still is very streaky...3 great plays in a row, then 5 terrible ones. Dont get me wrong, hes kind of like kaman IMO...his worst is still better than most of what the team has to offer. But you have to be able to at least UNDERSTAND why dunleavvy is doing what he is doing, even though you might not agree with it. Dunleavvy wants defense, he wants team ball, etc. etc. Wilcox didnt get PT under Dun because of his lapses and lack of rotations, etc., and now maggette isnt starting until he can get back into shape and start doing more of those things too. Not to mention the incredible offensive advantage we have with maggs coming in agasint the second team.
Now again, dont put words in my mouth, im not saying that i wouldnt start maggs now, im just saying i see where dun is coming from, hes just being the same dun he always has been.
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What do you call swinging on artest's nuts? Saying hes a great defensive player? Imagining what he would have done for us, when at the time he would have replaced Ross in the lineup, as opposed to him having an impact in Sactown even though he replaced an all star? These are very valid points, if saying them is swinging on someones nuts, then let me be the first to swing away, because to me its just stating the obvious unless you want to dispute artests DPOY award, dispute ross as actually better than Artest, or dispute Sactowns record since he got there.
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Dunleavy definitely plays favorites instead of doing what's best for the team, tell me why else McCarty gets more time than Singleton?
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Im the first to question dunleavvy's rotations in the losses. IMO, there are direct correlations to our losses and bad streaks, with some terrible substitution patterns, but lately i havent seen much to complain about to my surprise.
Do i think the clippers should give him a 10 year extension or something? No. I really think we could be doing better than we are. Look at the Suns who dont nearly have the talent the clippers do, yet look at their record. Thats what a good coach does. Dunleavvy stresses some things i think too much. But you cant fault him for bringing maggs off of the bench with the record we have lately. maggs stil plays the same minutes he probably would anyway if he started.
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03-28-2006, 09:36 AM
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Re: Maggs whining again!
90 % of you guys are killing me with your bashing of Maggs. We are about to make the playoffs and we've had a great season. I dont know about you other guys but Ive suffered through 15 years of losing and Im so damn excited about the playoffs. Stop *****ing about Maggs and give this team some damn credit. Maggs should be the starter. He is the only perimeter player we have who is not afraid to go strong to the hoop. Maggs sacrifices his body every night so he can get to the free throw line. With Maggs in the starting lineup the team can get out and fastbreak more. DOnt get me wrong I love Q Ross but he is a role player suited to come off the bench. Get off Maggs and get ready for the Playoffs!!
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03-28-2006, 11:17 AM
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Re: Maggs whining again!
As good as Maggette is, the last time I checked, all WINNING teams have people who make sacrifices "for the good of the team"
As lame as that may sound, look at the Spurs, Pistons, Mavericks, etc. they all have "starting quality players" coming off the bench, and WINNING!
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03-28-2006, 05:07 PM
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Re: Maggs whining again!
None of those teams have a player even close to as good as Maggs coming off the bench.
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03-28-2006, 05:25 PM
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#57 (permalink)
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Re: Maggs whining again!
Represent!
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