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06-26-2006, 11:02 AM
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Yes, i think maggs is back too this year....i was just posting a trade that worked under the salary cap, and a trade that i would have liked to see. But the reality is maggs will still be here, and miles probably will end up in houston or new york or something.
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06-26-2006, 01:36 PM
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Re: Rumor Mill
Yamaneko, Your attitude towards people's criticism of trades, ethics, etc.. is extremely defensive... nearly 100% of the time. As a moderator, I understand you have to maintain a level of control here, but I honestly didn't see one thing written in this thread that constituted threatening a ban or whatever.
People making fun of trade proposals are nothing new on basketballboards.net, it happens all the time! No one was directly making fun of you, we just thought it was a dumb idea. Particularly because we know you're a big Clipper fan as well, not just some fool asking about a rip-off trade idea. So we were ribbing you about it, it really shouldn't be a big enough deal to get the response it got from you.
The point about bringing up race as a factor in trades on multiple occasions is a valid one. It shouldn't be tolerated, and your defensive response is disappointing to say the least...
As for cussing, i cuss all the time here and i've never been edited for it. The system automatically edits out the curse words. But you seem to be taking exception towards those of us who dislike your ideas, this is a very biased attitude...
I'll probably get a long *** response where you dispute everything i've said, but all i'm asking is that you realize we're mostly adults here, we all have differing opinons, and most importantly we're just having fun. So try not to takes things so seriously all the time, its a bummer to read threads like this. Peace.
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06-26-2006, 02:26 PM
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Re: Rumor Mill
Yameneko, tell me if this trade work under the cap:
Maggette + pick for Josh Smith and Zaza Pachulia.
Thank you.
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06-26-2006, 03:01 PM
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Yamaneko, Your attitude towards people's criticism of trades, ethics, etc.. is extremely defensive... nearly 100% of the time. As a moderator, I understand you have to maintain a level of control here, but I honestly didn't see one thing written in this thread that constituted threatening a ban or whatever.
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ANYONE can critisize, thats what the message board is for. But when anyone posts something thats in detail, well thought out, things for pros and cons on it, etc., you either A. reply with respect and stick to the points, or B. dont reply at all, if all that will be said has to do with vomiting, or the like. When did I threaten a ban? I said to the poster who had 2 (maybe 3) profanitly laced posts in one day, in multiple threads (one having nothing to do with me) to please refrain from doing that, or else those types of posts will be deleted. Its nothing new. We edit posts, delete derrogatory posts, etc. etc. all the time. I didnt threaten anyone with a "ban", i dont think i can even ban anyone.
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People making fun of trade proposals are nothing new on basketballboards.net, it happens all the time!
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Yes, and therse nothing wrong with debating trade proposals, like i said. But one thing we need to have on here is respect for opinions. Unless theres a troll who comes in here and says we should trade brand for kwame brown, all posters here deserve respect. This is what makes this board the best out there IMO for clippers boards, is USUALLY we are above this kind of behavior, where a poster posts something, yet instead of going into a debate on it, we have just one liner immature comments. When that happens, it brings down the quality of the board, you dont think so? What HELPS the quality of a board is when multiple people can have a discussion about something without that sophmoric humor. Like i said, we dont have to agree, but at the same time we should be above those kind of posts.
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The point about bringing up race as a factor in trades on multiple occasions is a valid one. It shouldn't be tolerated, and your defensive response is disappointing to say the least...
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What shouldnt be tolerated? A complete fact? Like others have posted, like it or not, these are factors that are considered by organizations. Not necessarily by the coach who only worries about basketball decisions, but by owners, etc. who have to worry about making money. Its not a racial thing per ce, its just marketing. Like i said above, the reasons the professor, and rafer alston, etc. are chosen, doesnt necessarily have to do with race, its about marketing. Like it or not, players like ha seung jin can be marketed more than someone like rebraca. Its just a fact.
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06-26-2006, 03:07 PM
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I like that trade for the Clippers but I doubt Atlanta would do that. But as far as salary cap works, NO, it will not work. But, it wouldnt take much for it to work. Atlanta would have to throw in the contract of John Edwards to make it work.
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06-26-2006, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by yamaneko
Like i said above, the reasons the professor, and rafer alston, etc. are chosen, doesnt necessarily have to do with race, its about marketing. Like it or not, players like ha seung jin can be marketed more than someone like rebraca. Its just a fact.
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the professor from AND1 got into the nba? which team? just curious, cause i never heard anything about that.
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06-26-2006, 03:27 PM
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haha, that would be the day.  no, if you go back to my original post, i meant the reason And 1 keeps him on the tour...its not like hes as good as those other guys, but he is the most popular player (at least last year) on the tour, hes what draws fans so youve got to keep him.
I doubt we will EVER see him even in the NBDL. Even he admitted he would never try since he knows he doesnt have the skills. I think his only basketball experience was the backup on some junior college team in washington or something.
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06-26-2006, 03:34 PM
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haha, that would be the day.  no, if you go back to my original post, i meant the reason And 1 keeps him on the tour...its not like hes as good as those other guys, but he is the most popular player (at least last year) on the tour, hes what draws fans so youve got to keep him.
I doubt we will EVER see him even in the NBDL. Even he admitted he would never try since he knows he doesnt have the skills. I think his only basketball experience was the backup on some junior college team in washington or something.
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yeah, his size severely limits his chances of success. i remember when they had a pickup game wtih AI in one episode, and AI looked like a big dude compared to him.
on a side note, when i watched the pickup game with AI, it was made glaringly clear, just why those guys will probably never play in the nba(of course excluding skip-to-my-lou). the people in the nba are there for a reason, and there is a reason why the AND1 stars are not in it.
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