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Old 02-05-2008, 10:16 PM   #346 (permalink)
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Looks like if the MRI comes back clean it is a done deal, Shaq for Marion and Bank. I don't see it working out for the Suns, Shaq can't run. The good thing though is Marion should help the Heat win some games which is good for the Clippers.
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:36 PM   #347 (permalink)
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this trade is even worse then the one the grizzles made....20 million a year for a guy who will probably average 12/7/1.5??? if the suns are SO desperate to trade marion why arent the clips doing anything?? trade maggette and thorton and cassell for him....maybe even a draft pick! clips need to do something..cuz they havent done anything for ever
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:15 AM   #348 (permalink)
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holy crap, is this trade really going down??? wow....


i would keep thornton...i think the only thing marion would do is bump us out of a top spot in the lottery...for coery and cassell, but not if we have to add thornton...and marion is getting a lot of money for how old he is...one injury away from being ineffective....but shaq??? what the hell are the suns thinking??? maybe they have some inside info that shaq will retire soon and they can get cap relief...have no idea why the suns would do this...
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:21 AM   #349 (permalink)
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I find this very perplexing. Especially for the suns. The suns the last few years have been even more penny pinching than the clippers...trading away their first round picks for nothing just to stay away from having the guaranteed deals. But now they trade a potentially expiring, (at worst 1 more year) deal for an oft injured guy owned more than 40 million 2 years after this one? Not to mention he slows down their whole style of play.

Sure they need more defense, but adding shaq just really changes their whole offense IMO. But, they might be subscribing to what ive been talking about...they havent been to the finals with marion...didnt seem like they were any closer this year, so lets try something new...worst case scenario we still dont get to the finals which is same as usual. But still...if i had that mentality, i would have made a run at pau, or someone else who would fit better in their system.

On the other hand im going to be very curious as to marion's numbers outside of phoenix. We have long talked about how peoples numbers are inflated when they play for phoenix. Joe Johnson being perhaps the exception, but still not IMO, since with phoenix he was a role player while in atlanta he is the star of the team, so its logical his numbers would still be quite good. It almost might be the same case in miami. They are so depleted, marion still might put up good numbers. But in that offense, i dont think he does what he did in phoenix.

So lets recap the pacific. Lakers trade for an international superstar. Golden State signs a starting PF (webber) while not having to give anything up. Phoenix trades for (albeit over the hill) one of the best centers of all time. Sacramento is actively shopping artest and/or bibby to try and get better. Meanwhile the clippers are rumored to be searching for a journeyman SG to replace guillermo diaz. Ouch.
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by the way. I'm now rooting for the suns to win the championship. Can you imagine if SOMEHOW adding shaq gets them the championship? I just want to see what kobe says after that. Gets shaq out of lakerville for him to win miami AND phoenix a ring. How great would that be.
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Nice trade for the Suns, if they would have kept their 2010 1st round pick.

They know that Nash has another two years left, and guess what? Shaq expires in two years, so they can go and quickly use the cap-space they can potentially get from a 20 mil expiring contract and sign a nice player and keep going. Marion would have just bothered them.

On the flip-side, if the Heat end up adding, let's say Jordan this offseason, then they will have a solid line-up in my opinion. PG-Wade-Marion-Haslem-Jordan.
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This is interesting, we'll see how Shaq affects the game.
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by the way. I'm now rooting for the suns to win the championship. Can you imagine if SOMEHOW adding shaq gets them the championship? I just want to see what kobe says after that. Gets shaq out of lakerville for him to win miami AND phoenix a ring. How great would that be.
Boo! I could never root for a jacka** coach like D'Antoni or a whiny little punk like Raja Bell. I cannot stand Phoenix. I would rather see San Antonio win again than have to watch those a-holes in Phoenix hoist the trophy.
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hehe. Me neither. (although i do like dantoni). But still just for the kobe/shaq legacy it would be great if he won one more ring w/o kobe. For that id put my dislike for the suns aside.

But denver...thats a team i dont think i could ever root for no mater what.