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07-02-2006, 02:02 PM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
Signing Thomas enhances our chances of keeping Sam since they are good friends. I personally hated TT but he is a Clipper now so Im a huge fan. Thomas will be very valuable cuz he is going to get wide opedn 3s with EB and Kaman in the post. Overall, Im happy with the signing.
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07-02-2006, 02:15 PM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
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Do you know the meaning of jaja? ElMarro uses it ALL the time.
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yeah its the equivalent to "haha" but eh i had alot of e-conversations with mexican friends
and they all type "jaja" so eh it stuck with me jaja
GO CLIPPERS 07!!!! MAAAN Im excited
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07-02-2006, 02:16 PM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
and my biggest fear when it comes to TIm Thomas, is that he goes back to playing like a scrub ...now that he has a contract...and everything he did last year towards the end of the year and the playoffs...was just cuz it was his contract year.... 
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07-02-2006, 02:24 PM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
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and my biggest fear when it comes to TIm Thomas, is that he goes back to playing like a scrub ...now that he has a contract...and everything he did last year towards the end of the year and the playoffs...was just cuz it was his contract year.... 
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Hopefully, Sam wont let TT slack off in the off season.
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07-02-2006, 08:11 PM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
This guy will be a bust. He performs well in the postseason of his final contracts to get more money. Looking back, hes been a bust until the final year of his contract. He was sitting on his couch most of last season, until the suns needed him, nows hes gonna get easy money from the clips.
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07-02-2006, 08:40 PM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
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Hopefully, Sam wont let TT slack off in the off season.
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For some reason, I believe Dunleavy made perfectly clear his expectations of ANY player on the Clipper team, and with that, I'm sure Tim spoke with Sam who laid out Dunleavy's quirky rotations, etc.
Tim, I believe, has NOT come into this situatiion expecting easy money. He knows this was a Playoff teams and that the expectations are great.
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07-02-2006, 08:46 PM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
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This guy will be a bust. He performs well in the postseason of his final contracts to get more money. Looking back, hes been a bust until the final year of his contract. He was sitting on his couch most of last season, until the suns needed him, nows hes gonna get easy money from the clips.
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Just like Cassell and Mobley
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07-03-2006, 12:01 AM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
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Originally Posted by Pain5155
This guy will be a bust. He performs well in the postseason of his final contracts to get more money. Looking back, hes been a bust until the final year of his contract. He was sitting on his couch most of last season, until the suns needed him, nows hes gonna get easy money from the clips.
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I've got a pen and paper ready.... what are the winning numbers for the California Lottery gonna be Wednesday?
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07-03-2006, 12:12 AM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
im looking at his career numbers, its actually not that bad year in and year out. Just by looking at it, i cant tell when the contract years was
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07-03-2006, 12:25 AM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
If you guys have realistic expectations of what Tim Thomas will give you, then this will be much easier through the season.
As far as offense there will be times when you cuss him out, and times when you say ,"Thank you Tim!" 75% of his shots are going to be jump shots. Sometimes he's hitting, some times he's not. He'll have a couple great 20 point games where he looks very good and then give you a couple games with a total of 4-20 shooting. The problem is that when he isn't shooting well, it's blown up because you are looking at all the other ways he fails to contribute on the court (rebounding, hustle, defense, smart play). What he will do though is give you a consistent threat from anywhere on the court where a jump shot can be taken. The guy has a beautiful stroke, and you'll be seeing plenty of it. His threes were dead on for the Suns. He is every bit the shooter that Radmanovic was. He will also surprise you by putting the ball on the floor after a pump fake and crushing it on the drive or putting up a sweet runner. He gets rebounds by using his size, but when the going gets tough he is easily pushed off the block or under the basket.
Do not expect defense. For a 6'10 240 guy with long arms, he does not use his body well at all. He averaged 4.5 fouls per game in 31 minutes for the Suns in the playoffs. In the regular season it was 3 per game in 24 minutes. He plays lazy defense and gets a ton of foul calls due to that. Dan Rosenbaum rated him one of the top worst defenders at the SF position in the NBA, so I didn't expect a whole lot. But darn was he bad on that end. When he is on the court the Suns gave up 9 more points per 100 posessions. If that were just an idle stat, I'd throw it out...but I can definitely believe it based on what I've seen. Expect nothing on the defensive end.
Tim Thomas will be good off the bench for you guys. I don't think the contract year thing holds much weight, because all he did was hit a bunch of shots. It's not like he hustled and shut anyone down or anything to earn a bunch of money. He did what he's always done...take shots and hit 'em. It's when you ask him to do other things that you run into trouble.
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07-03-2006, 12:31 AM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
according to 82games.com
When thomas played for the knicks, he played best at the PF spot, with a PER of 15.1, (per 48 minutes), and 13.1 at SF. But he also averaged 10 fouls per 48 minutes at the PF position, so he has some trouble defending guys (as we saw vs. brand).
With the suns he did best as a center. But his defense really needs help. gave up way too much points and rebounds both at PF and C in both years to whomever he was guarding.
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07-03-2006, 04:02 PM
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07-03-2006, 04:45 PM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
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I was reading old articles that kind of insinuated that they hated each other? Thats news to me, hope it doesnt cause problems.
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07-03-2006, 05:33 PM
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Re: Clippers to sign Tim Thomas????
Heres what Cassell and TT said about each other....
From the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (Sam's diplomatic response):
"Last week, New York Knicks forward Tim Thomas said his former Milwaukee Bucks teammate, Sam Cassell, was jealous of the $67 million contract Thomas signed in 2000 and also said Cassell played poorly in two first-round playoff losses to Indiana.
In an interview with the Newark Star-Ledger, Thomas complained about problems he had with some of his teammates and coach George Karl. Thomas implied that Cassell froze him out - didn't pass him the ball - because of jealousy about Thomas' big contract.
Tuesday at the Bradley Center, outside the Minnesota Timberwolves' locker room, ringed by Milwaukee reporters, Cassell dismissed Thomas' remarks as excuse-making.
"I don't want to keep commenting on Tim Thomas, but a guy like that, just play basketball, man," said Cassell, the second-leading scorer on the Timberwolves. "No one was jealous of his contract. He should thank me for helping get the contract, first and foremost."
Cassell said he did not underperform in the playoff series against the Pacers. Foul out, yes. Underperform, no.
"He made it seem like I didn't do my share in the playoffs the year he got paid," Cassell said. "That goes to show you his awareness of basketball. Once I fouled out, that's when we lost."
Cassell said Thomas "has other problems in New York" and needs to focus on those.
"I heard they were saying they wanted Keith Van Horn back," Cassell said, referring to fan chants Sunday at Madison Square Garden. "I got problems in this locker room here (in Minnesota). I got to keep my guys focused. That's my main concern. Tim Thomas? I wish him the best. He just needs to play ball, stop making excuses and have a good career. Because he has all the potential. But undeveloped potential in my eyes is trash. Step it up, man. He can be the Tim Thomas I know he can be. I wish him the best."
When Cassell was with the Bucks, he made $3.5 million per year, compared with the $13.4 million paid to Thomas. But Cassell, who now makes $5.67 million per season, said that had no bearing on his attitude about Thomas.
"There's no player-hating here," Cassell said. "Contract? He's saying like I was making minimum or something. I made a good living myself."
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