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**yamaneko** · 07-27-2006, 01:19 AM

yes, of course arenas is 10X as good as livingston...im just weary of a arenas/cassell being out there at the same time. I guess it doesnt matter though, brand/arenas pretty much cancels everyone else out...you can put korolev, davis, and diaz as the other guys and brand/areans still probably would be good for about 55+ points a game. lol.

But, this will never happen IMO. I dont see washington giving up on him unless he comes out in the media and says, 100% im opting out. Plus, again the clippers will NEVER do the trade unless he agrees to some extension (agrees not to opt out), and isnt that like agasint the rules or something? Negotiating at extension with someone whose not even on your team?

Arenas should have just come here 2 years ago when he chose washington suppoesdly on a coin flip.

**yamaneko** · 07-27-2006, 01:30 AM

By the way, for you salary cap freaks, here is what works

livvy/maggs for areans
kaman/maggs for areanas

Mobley can be substituted for maggs in either of those

Dang, im looking at washingtons roster on realgm, WOW, no wonder why arenas wants out. Thats a pretty pathetic lineup. hats off to their coach for getting them wins. I dont know who there outside of areans would start on the clippers.

by the way, washington probably wouldnt want maggette unless they wanted to make a free agent run, inasmuch as maggette too is guaranteed to be opting out of his contract as well. In that case, why even make the trade, unless they were getting a kaman or livvy out of the deal...

afobisme · 07-27-2006, 02:33 AM

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do the salaries match with maggs/kaman though? And of course only if an extension is signed with the clippers. Id prefer to wait until mid season and somehow include cassell in the deal. Perhaps maggette/Cassell? I dont think its a good use of roster space to have livingston, arenas AND cassell all out there. Id love a livingston/arenas backcourt though almost as much as id like a livingston/iverson one.

i don't think the wizards would take cassell in the package. why take an aging player with 1 more year on his contract (than arenas)? especially since the wizards will have to be rebuilding if arenas were to leave.

**qross1fan** · 07-27-2006, 09:45 AM

Cassell would be expiring, but I doubt Washington does that.

Maggette + Kaman + 2nd for Arenas, the second could sweeten the deal. Livingston+Arenas backcourt = SWEET with Brand + TT? Up front and depth @ the SF position is nice.

**yamaneko** · 07-27-2006, 01:48 PM

With a livvy/areanas lineup and if we trade kaman, we could just go phoenix suns like and play brand at the 5, thomas at the 4, Mobley at 3, arenas and livvy in the back court, and still have guys like cassell, Ross, singleton, davis, rebraca, ewing coming off the bench.

ElMarroAfamado · 07-27-2006, 02:10 PM

i dont think we have the shooters to play Suns style...but if they want to trade Kaman then i guess it could be possible, cuz although he can be a potent scorer down low...he seems to slow us down somewhat...so who knows...

leidout · 07-27-2006, 03:29 PM

It makes more sense to offer Livingston + whoever than to offer Kaman + whoever. Our PG duties would be 90% carried out by Arenas and he is a more than adequate distributor when he has people worth passing to. Shaun would just be reduced to a defensive role or playing out of position, where he isn't very effective.

The more i think about it, Livingston is our absolute best trade bait instead of Maggette. His potential can get us a bonafide all-star & allow the clippers to dump Mobley's salary as well.

MicCheck12 · 07-27-2006, 08:02 PM

I have arenas a top 4 player in tha league
kobe
james
arenas
wade
brand

**yamaneko** · 07-27-2006, 10:53 PM

Yeah, the more i think about it arenas is like the dangerfield of the NBA. I didnt even realize that he put up such numbers...he doesnt get the respect he deserves.

bootstrenf · 07-28-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by yamaneko

Yeah, the more i think about it arenas is like the dangerfield of the NBA. I didnt even realize that he put up such numbers...he doesnt get the respect he deserves.

that's why i've been able to snag him in the second round of my fantasy leagues for the last two years.

bootstrenf · 07-28-2006, 08:31 AM

...edit, double post.

**NOBLE** · 07-28-2006, 02:09 PM

Even as a YOOGE Livingston fan, I'd most definitely consider giving him up for Arenas. Alas, having those two in the same lineup is downright sexay.

Kapt Clipper · 07-28-2006, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by yamaneko

By the way, for you salary cap freaks, here is what works

livvy/maggs for areans
kaman/maggs for areanas

Mobley can be substituted for maggs in either of those

...

i would do this trade only with shaun and cat in the equation...on the plus side, arenas seems durable (#1 in minutes played) and gives us defense (#2 in steals) and outside firepower (#2 in 3pt FG made) and overall scoring (4th in the league)...on the disturbing side, he led the league in total turnovers and turnovers per game...YIKES!!...but to end on a positive note, his scoring avg has increased every year...yeah, all things considered, i'd be down for this trade given the fact he's a proven playah that can help us win NOW.

og15 · 07-29-2006, 07:18 PM

Arenas and Brand on the same team is just insane. Problem is that Washington would not even consider trading Arenas at this point in time. The only guys they'd think of trading him for are Wade and Lebron, and that's not even a definate except possibly Lebron.

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