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Old 10-21-2006, 09:47 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Old 10-21-2006, 09:49 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Re: GT: Pre-Season Game 4 - Clippers @ Lakers

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Don't forget, the Clippers faced the Suns team that won 3 in a row to come back and beat the Lakers, not the Suns team that went down 1-3... if you watched the games, you'd notice that the Suns picked up their pace in games 4-7 of the Lakers - Suns series.
LOL, what difference does that make? The Clippers still lost in 7 games as the Lakers. And I don't believe the Clippers or the Lakers are a championship caliber team.
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LOL, what difference does that make? The Clippers still lost in 7 games as the Lakers. And I don't believe the Clippers or the Lakers are a championship caliber team.
Do you really need to continue going on with this? What difference does it make that the Clippers lost in 7 games as well? I mean, Clippers made the 2nd round, Lakers didn't. What difference does it make who they played?
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Old 10-21-2006, 11:13 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Do you really need to continue going on with this? What difference does it make that the Clippers lost in 7 games as well? I mean, Clippers made the 2nd round, Lakers didn't. What difference does it make who they played?

The real question would be if the Clippers didnt tank to play the nuggets would they have made it to the second round? I believe they would have more than likely (as Dallas is soft and Clippers could have taken them, in my opinion). We will never know that though. I personally dont agree with tanking to play a weaker team as it shows weakness, id have liked to see Clippers battle and destroy Dallas. Maybe this year? Who knows...


So instead they played the Nuggets.. The worst playoff team in the western conference. And then lost to a run and gun team that had to go seven games with the Lakers before hand, when the clippers were enjoying a mini vacation.
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The real question would be if the Clippers didnt tank to play the nuggets would they have made it to the second round? I believe they would have more than likely (as Dallas is soft and Clippers could have taken them, in my opinion). We will never know that though. I personally dont agree with tanking to play a weaker team as it shows weakness, id have liked to see Clippers battle and destroy Dallas. Maybe this year? Who knows...


So instead they played the Nuggets.. The worst playoff team in the western conference. And then lost to a run and gun team that had to go seven games with the Lakers before hand, when the clippers were enjoying a mini vacation.
the clippers were better than the lakers last year. the clippers had more wins and therefore had the opportunity to tank. and what is so bad about facing the lesser team? if it gave the clippers a better chance to get a championship, then why not take it?

and mini vacations dont help teams win.
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the clippers were better than the lakers last year. the clippers had more wins and therefore had the opportunity to tank. and what is so bad about facing the lesser team? if it gave the clippers a better chance to get a championship, then why not take it?

and mini vacations dont help teams win.

Rest doesn't help a team win?

Tanking isn't a sign of weakness? The funny part about that is if the Lakers tanked to play a lesser team in the playoffs Clipper fans would call them out on it. And I wouldn't blame them, because I would to. To me tanking is pathetic. There is a difference between Making it to the second round, and earning a trip to the second round.

The Clippers had no chance of a Championship last season. Same as the Lakers. The Clippers should have won more games, they are the BETTER team. I'm not at all suggesting the Clippers arent a better team, just not that much better. If you have to tank in order to make it to the second round, thats no different than stat padding in garbage time that many people like to "call Kobe" out for.

They never had a chance to play Dallas to prove rather or not they could beat them. (I think they could again), but if they would have went through Dallas and beat Suns there would be no question about the superiority of LA teams. But instead they tanked out of fear of a first round exit (Might be smart, but I guess its better to look good in theory than practice, beating Dallas would have sent a statement to the NBA, as well as LA fans).

Instead most people, myself included am always going to remember the fact that they both got beaten down by a crippled Suns in the same game seven of the playoffs.
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Old 10-21-2006, 11:54 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Re: GT: Pre-Season Game 4 - Clippers @ Lakers

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Rest doesn't help a team win?

Tanking isn't a sign of weakness? The funny part about that is if the Lakers tanked to play a lesser team in the playoffs Clipper fans would call them out on it. And I wouldn't blame them, because I would to. To me tanking is pathetic. There is a difference between Making it to the second round, and earning a trip to the second round.

The Clippers had no chance of a Championship last season. Same as the Lakers. The Clippers should have won more games, they are the BETTER team. I'm not at all suggesting the Clippers arent a better team, just not that much better. If you have to tank in order to make it to the second round, thats no different than stat padding in garbage time that many people like to "call Kobe" out for.

They never had a chance to play Dallas to prove rather or not they could beat them. (I think they could again), but if they would have went through Dallas and beat Suns there would be no question about the superiority of LA teams. But instead they tanked out of fear of a first round exit (Might be smart, but I guess its better to look good in theory than practice, beating Dallas would have sent a statement to the NBA, as well as LA fans).

Instead most people, myself included am always going to remember the fact that they both got beaten down by a crippled Suns in the same game seven of the playoffs.
Clippers EXPLOITED a weakness in the Playoff Format, how is it the Clippers fault that the NBA's formats are totally wrong? I mean, isn't the point of the NBA to try to win the championship no matter what way you do it(intentionally injuring doesn't count)? I mean, if that's the case, then ANYONE who ever used Hack-A-Shaq or Hack-A-Ben or Hack-A-Horrible FT Shooter is also weak? Just like it's the players fault for not being a good FT shooter and the opposing team exploiting it. That's exactly what the Clippers did with the format.
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Clippers EXPLOITED a weakness in the Playoff Format, how is it the Clippers fault that the NBA's formats are totally wrong? I mean, isn't the point of the NBA to try to win the championship no matter what way you do it(intentionally injuring doesn't count)? I mean, if that's the case, then ANYONE who ever used Hack-A-Shaq or Hack-A-Ben or Hack-A-Horrible FT Shooter is also weak? Just like it's the players fault for not being a good FT shooter and the opposing team exploiting it. That's exactly what the Clippers did with the format.

So basically your saying its ok to drop games on purpose, because players pull a hack-a-shaq on the court? That the best way to win a championship is to avoid better teams? Im not sure how that works because if the Clippers were a championship team they probably would have met Dallas eventually? Why not just get them over with in the first round?

If the teams and owners of teams dont like the playoff format (which they do have legitimite gripes), they should all get together at the union conferences and talk about it. No one really does though. The Lakers have had to go through some of the toughest teams in the game durning the three peat championships, they didnt dodge other teams or tank purposely for one main reason. They WERE a championship team and knew they could beat anyone they played no matter what order.

The point of the game I thought was to be the best, not avoid the best teams. I mean come on if the Clippers were that afraid to Mavs, they must have thought or known that perhaps they had no shot at getting out of the first round. If that was the mindset they also knew they had no shot at winning a title, so it would probably look better for the "hype" machine if they could at least stage a second round.

Tanking to play the weak team is exactly that by the way... Staging a playoff round to get to another. Thats fine, if the Clipper fans are proud of that. I find it pathetic personally. And I know for a fact if the situation was reversed, many clipper fans would be saying this now. Because most of us I think know, deep in side, that its just not right to lose any game on purpose. I mean, I guess screw the fans that paid for tickets to watch the game durning the tanking spree? They dont deserve a game of a team actually trying, because the format is flawed, and its all about hype and staging a second round match up, not the fans......

I personally just dont understand some of the logic behind people who justify anything thier teams do. As a Clipper fan I was far more proud of the Clippers the season before last when they didnt make the playoffs, but tried thier hearts out EVERY night and did everything they could to win.
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Old 10-22-2006, 03:25 AM   #129 (permalink)
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Well, we will never know.. I guess to each their own opinon.. For me, I'm glad that they made it to the 2nd round.. Tanked the games?? Rested the players, more experience for the 2nd string players, or whatever the reason... FINALLY I was able to sell my extra tickets like HOT cakes !! hee hee !!! $$$$$...
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Nobody can convince me that the Clippers purposefully tanked. Once they clinched the playoffs, their starters rested. Many other teams did that.
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Rest doesn't help a team win?

Tanking isn't a sign of weakness? The funny part about that is if the Lakers tanked to play a lesser team in the playoffs Clipper fans would call them out on it. And I wouldn't blame them, because I would to. To me tanking is pathetic. There is a difference between Making it to the second round, and earning a trip to the second round.

The Clippers had no chance of a Championship last season. Same as the Lakers. The Clippers should have won more games, they are the BETTER team. I'm not at all suggesting the Clippers arent a better team, just not that much better. If you have to tank in order to make it to the second round, thats no different than stat padding in garbage time that many people like to "call Kobe" out for.

They never had a chance to play Dallas to prove rather or not they could beat them. (I think they could again), but if they would have went through Dallas and beat Suns there would be no question about the superiority of LA teams. But instead they tanked out of fear of a first round exit (Might be smart, but I guess its better to look good in theory than practice, beating Dallas would have sent a statement to the NBA, as well as LA fans).

Instead most people, myself included am always going to remember the fact that they both got beaten down by a crippled Suns in the same game seven of the playoffs.
no it doesnt

im not saying the clippers were twice as good as the lakers but they were better and not head to head
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Re: GT: Pre-Season Game 4 - Clippers @ Lakers

The game against the Grizzlies... meh..

I don't get why people say that tanking is weakness...

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