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Dynasty Raider · 11-07-2006, 04:15 PM

I copied this from another board and couldn't resist posting it here, because you all know *I* agree with him, except ... he has to earn that $3M for me to support keeping him at all.

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Reply Re: Dunleavey/Clipper haters, converge here
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I don't know if I necessarily hate MD but often at times, I have begged for him to take a friggin seat and let the PGs handle the play for a change.
The question is not what Dun did last year but given the talent we had last year, could another coach do better a la Brown? Let's not bring longevity or anything else in this discussion and strictly keep it to coaching. Would Byron Scott do a better or equal job with our talent? Where would we be without SAM?

Also Dun has made some questionable selections in the draft too.
My biggest worry is signing him for an insane amount like $6M/yr and not winning a championship. I think Dun should get more like $3.5-4M per IMO!

Vaught from his Spot · 11-07-2006, 08:19 PM

First of all, I think money should be no object when it comes to paying for a coach. After years of ineptitude from Donald Sterling, he owes us AT LEAST that much.

Second, Mike Dunleavy has a horrid tendency to overcoach, so to speak. He makes substitutions that make sense only in his mind and is far too matchup driven. And he really doesn't have a damn clue when it comes to beating the Phoenix Suns.

With that said, I think that Mike Dunleavy is the perfect guy for this team at this time. He commands the respect of the players, young and old alike, and gets them to buy into his system. He's very good at getting the best out of his team, even though he steps in their way at times. It even seems that he's finally forced discipline into the head of Corey Maggette, a perinially unfocused, dumb player. Corey's been committed to defense and has cut down on the bad shots, and he's on board with doing whatever it takes to win. I agree with a lot of the gripes that many Clipper fans have with him, but you can't deny he's been a positive force on our team, and moreover the organization. I'd like to see him stay a while.

leidout · 11-07-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaught from his Spot

First of all, I think money should be no object when it comes to paying for a coach. After years of ineptitude from Donald Sterling, he owes us AT LEAST that much.

Second, Mike Dunleavy has a horrid tendency to overcoach, so to speak. He makes substitutions that make sense only in his mind and is far too matchup driven. And he really doesn't have a damn clue when it comes to beating the Phoenix Suns.

With that said, I think that Mike Dunleavy is the perfect guy for this team at this time. He commands the respect of the players, young and old alike, and gets them to buy into his system. He's very good at getting the best out of his team, even though he steps in their way at times. It even seems that he's finally forced discipline into the head of Corey Maggette, a perinially unfocused, dumb player. Corey's been committed to defense and has cut down on the bad shots, and he's on board with doing whatever it takes to win. I agree with a lot of the gripes that many Clipper fans have with him, but you can't deny he's been a positive force on our team, and moreover the organization. I'd like to see him stay a while.

Most of us agree that he has done a good thing by getting this team out of the gutter, but the problem most people also have is that he's not the coach to get us the mountain top. That much of the offensive schemes has been done by Sam Cassell. During the playoffs, we probably match up against coachs like... Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich, Mike D'Antoni, Jeff Van Gundy, Don Nelson, Avery Johnson, Pat Riley... How many people honestly think Dunleavy can out-coach these guys in a 7-game series? Offensively, the clippers talent is very under utilized, and it will show against well coached teams.

Dynasty Raider · 11-22-2006, 09:49 PM

DTS is looking smarter with each game ..

$6Mil/year? Same old Dunleavy, take a team to the Playoffs, head gets too big and then loses his job. Or, if he's lucky, he'll get promoted upstairs.

I believe this team has turned on Dunleavy. They are sick of his rotations, his system, favoritism, etc.

Of course I can't prove it, but try putting yourself in some of their places under his coaching.

Free Arsenal · 11-22-2006, 09:51 PM

I kinda don't care at this point, I don't want to cheer for an organization that turned sour too quickly. I'll change and become a hornets fan.

Or maybe a fan of the Bobcats or Blazers, a team that actually plays with heart every game.

Dynasty Raider · 11-22-2006, 10:18 PM

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I kinda don't care at this point, I don't want to cheer for an organization that turned sour too quickly. I'll change and become a hornets fan.

Or maybe a fan of the Bobcats or Blazers, a team that actually plays with heart every game.

You CAN'T GIVE UP NOW!!!

Afters years of losing; you can atleast wait until the All Star game before leaving. Who knows, we might get a new coach if the fans get loud enough.

Free Arsenal · 11-22-2006, 10:19 PM

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You CAN'T GIVE UP NOW!!!

Afters years of losing; you can atleast wait until the All Star game before leaving. Who knows, we might get a new coach if the fans get loud enough.

It's too late...

Dynasty Raider · 11-22-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Free Arsenal

I kinda don't care at this point, I don't want to cheer for an organization that turned sour too quickly. I'll change and become a hornets fan.

Or maybe a fan of the Bobcats or Blazers, a team that actually plays with heart every game.

DAMN --- that was QUICK!!!!

Change it back!!!

Free Arsenal · 11-22-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynasty Raider

DAMN --- that was QUICK!!!!

Change it back!!!

No.

Dynasty Raider · 11-22-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Free Arsenal

No.

I understand your frustration. But, I will miss you.

AND, will welcome you back!!!

Free Arsenal · 11-22-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynasty Raider

I understand your frustration. But, I will miss you.

AND, will welcome you back!!!

Get a spurs avatar. become a spurs bandwagon fan.

Dynasty Raider · 11-22-2006, 10:43 PM

"Can we bring Paul WEstphal on a "trial" basis? "

Copied that from another site, and it may not be such a bad idea. I don't know much about his coaching career (didn't he coach the Suns), but he's a studio analyst already so he's available and has been closely watching our team. I'll bet he has some ideas about what's wrong with the team.

universal! · 11-22-2006, 11:22 PM

Rick Adelman could work wonders on the offensive end with the Clips players.

Free Arsenal isn't going anywhere... Clips fans are too used to losing for this slow start to un-fan us.

PAIDNFULL23 · 11-22-2006, 11:56 PM

I wish basketball was like football so we could hire Adelman as the offensive coordinator, Larry Brown as the defensive coordinator and Stan Van Gundy as the head coach.

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