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Old 06-28-2007, 06:52 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Think about it, if Mobley or Cassell get hurt, then what? We got NO DEPTH at guard. Nick Young would've made a world of sense.
Which is why the offseason involves way more then the draft itself. We have our 2nd round selection to still use, and can take a PG, such as Bobby Brown, Tareaun Green, Aaron Brooks, Jared Jordan, etc., along with free agency and holding the rights of Diaz. Draft alone won't determine our depth and what not.

EDIT: Morris Almond might be available, Fernandez seems to be dropping.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:04 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Think about it, if Mobley or Cassell get hurt, then what? We got NO DEPTH at guard. Nick Young would've made a world of sense.

Maggette doesn't play G? He does, not as good as F but he has a lot of experience at G. Ross plays G as well. PG was already an issue and I don't think they were going to take Critt.
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Maggette doesn't play G? He does, not as good as F but he has a lot of experience at G. Ross plays G as well. PG was already an issue and I don't think they were going to take Critt.
Maggette plays SF a lot better than SG, so you have to ask, if he's going to stay at all and play the guard spot.... why draft Thornton???

Ross can play guard for defense, but he can't produce any offense at that spot. Cassell will get swamped in that scenario.
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Maggette plays SF a lot better than SG, so you have to ask, if he's going to stay at all and play the guard spot.... why draft Thornton???

Ross can play guard for defense, but he can't produce any offense at that spot. Cassell will get swamped in that scenario.

Cassell was going to get swamped anyway, his help wasn't going to come in the NBA. The Clippers I think only liked Law, as supposedly Law destroyed Critt in the Clippers workout. I honestly didn't believe the Clippers were going to take a PG. They never really liked any PG at 14. Who did you want? It seems like you wanted a PG.
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Cassell was going to get swamped anyway, his help wasn't going to come in the NBA. The Clippers I think only liked Law, as supposedly Law destroyed Critt in the Clippers workout. I honestly didn't believe the Clippers were going to take a PG. They never really liked any PG at 14. Who did you want? It seems like you wanted a PG.
I wanted Nick Young at SG. Our backcourt is a pretty much 70 years old combined.
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Clippers were not saying they would get a forward. They were saying they would get a wing player. Thornton...i have no idea what he is in the nba. He played PF in college, but has a Small forward size. But with little ball handling skills im not sure id call him a wing player. If the clippers reach and pick crittenton or koppenon, fine, they get depth at PG which is lacking...if they get nick young, well that just makes too much sense...if they "reach" and get stuckey, fernandez, bellineli, well fine thats the wing player they need down the road....if they get jason smith, perhaps splitter, again, fine, they get the backup forward/center they need. But thornton? They literally could not have picked another player that doesnt fit into the team now nor the future, more than thornton.

When will baylor be fired.
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Clippers were not saying they would get a forward. They were saying they would get a wing player. Thornton...i have no idea what he is in the nba. He played PF in college, but has a Small forward size. But with little ball handling skills im not sure id call him a wing player. If the clippers reach and pick crittenton or koppenon, fine, they get depth at PG which is lacking...if they get nick young, well that just makes too much sense...if they "reach" and get stuckey, fernandez, bellineli, well fine thats the wing player they need down the road....if they get jason smith, perhaps splitter, again, fine, they get the backup forward/center they need. But thornton? They literally could not have picked another player that doesnt fit into the team now nor the future, more than thornton.

When will baylor be fired.
Yikes, it's kinda scary when i agree with every word you say Yamaneko.
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Yikes, it's kinda scary when i agree with every word you say Yamaneko.
Yeah me too. I usually disagree with yamaneko all the time. He is right on with his assessment of our 1st pick
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throw grandpa al in there, were now a combined 100 years old. lol.

I still just cant believe it. I thought after an hour id have gotten used to the fact, but i really and truly do not know what the clippers were thinking. Even if nick young was gone, thornton is not the right pick for the team. But with nick there, they blow it still.

Second round pick is useless, already its been stated theres little to no chance of them making the team. This was the chance to build for the future. We blew it, plain and simple. Thornton, where is his minutes going to come from? He cant play guard, and his undersized perhaps for PF, and for sure cant play center. at PF, brand is going to get about all the minutes, and thomas gets what little minutes left there. At SF, ross started much of the year last year, then youve got thomas playing there as well, and of course our supposed "second best player" on the team, maggette there as well.

The ONLY hope we can have is if he turns out to be a david lee-ish surprise that allows us to trade tim thomas. But honestly thats wishful thinking looking at his age. Bynum is like 6 years younger than the guy and is going in his third year in the league. Korolev is about what 4 years younger and is in his third year?

Meanwhile look at other teams improving themselves and making moves. portland got a first round draft pick, rudy fernandez, who probably if this was last year would have been top 10, for a 2009 second rounder. the warriors got brandon wright for jason richardson. (come on, maggette and his expiring deal plus a future first is better than jason richardson). We could have easily had brandon wright, the guy many say was the 3rd best player in the draft, and probably would have gone 1 if this was last years draft.

Teams making good picks all over the place. Look at san antonio. They get two guys who were slated to be top 10 last year: Marcus williams and tiago splitter, with their late picks.
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Cassell was going to get swamped anyway, his help wasn't going to come in the NBA. The Clippers I think only liked Law, as supposedly Law destroyed Critt in the Clippers workout. I honestly didn't believe the Clippers were going to take a PG. They never really liked any PG at 14. Who did you want? It seems like you wanted a PG.
You wont have to look far to see that we made a huge mistake by not drafting Critt. Oh well
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oh yeah, lets not forget boston getting allen for mostly garbage and a draft pick. Heck, look at new york. They now have arguably the best true c/true PF combo in the entire league in curry/randolph.
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oh yeah, lets not forget boston getting allen for mostly garbage and a draft pick. Heck, look at new york. They now have arguably the best true c/true PF combo in the entire league in curry/randolph.
Boston cleaned up by getting Allen for nothing.

Allen, Pierce, Green, Jefferson= Boston back in the playoffs
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Yup. Barring injury, i expect boston to make noise this year. i cant wait to see bill simmons take on it. I hope he has harsh words for the clippers too.

The thing i cant wait to hear is dunleavvy and baylor's excuse for passing on nick young and others to take thornton. Honestly what can they say. They cant say they promised him. They cant say he fills a need. They cant say he has upside. They cant say hes a local hero. They cant say anything. What id like them to say is, "effective immediately i am tendering my resignation after yet again making the worst possible draft choice....i plan on taking over millen's job with the detroit lions."
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