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07-10-2007, 10:07 PM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
I agree with you that he is what this team needs and if Dun hadn't promised Y2K a spot already I would feel better about Diaz' chance to make this team at the 2. Thus far, his actions leaving his team and the way he plays says to me that he might have some maturing to do. I think he could be a great scorer in this league, but I doubt that will earn him a spot without the other aspect improving with Dun-Dun around.
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07-10-2007, 10:36 PM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
I didn't catch a second of the game, looks like Thornton did alright. He a lot of TO's, what was he doing wrong in this area?
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07-11-2007, 07:40 AM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
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I didn't catch a second of the game, looks like Thornton did alright. He a lot of TO's, what was he doing wrong in this area?
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From what I can remember, he had one really tough traveling call against him off a hesitation move to the hoop, one good traveling call as he tried to go to the rim again, one pass out of bounds to nobody off a drive and he got stripped inside once. I can't remember the other two off the top of my head. His shot was off though, he got defended really well by Houston all night, they paid a lot of attention to him every time he touched the ball. He really was only able to get it going for a short period of time at the end of the first half when he hit a few shots in a row including an and one.
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07-11-2007, 12:18 PM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
there is a way to keep them if we cut davis...vada
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07-11-2007, 01:17 PM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
Anybody else out there running Mac OSx? I am and I was not able to watch a single second of the game. I guess NBA.com video just isn't set up for the Mac platforms. That competely sucks! Other than that, it looks there were a few encouraging performances last night.
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07-11-2007, 02:33 PM
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Ok, didnt do any clipper interviews this year, only talked to one of the coaches for a little who said thornton will not be playing any SG this year.
here is my analysis of the game:
Korolev - In street clothes, but on the bench.
Bowman - Played decently. Nothing to0 spectacular, but made less mistakes than some other guys who are sure to be on the team.
Conroy - Might have guaranteed his contract not getting picked up with this game. Even though it is mediocre competition, still showed zero offensive game. The guy scored in college, scored in NBDL. What has happened to his offensive game, i have no idea. He also didnt do that good a job running the offense. Im not really sure what is going on with conroy.
Jordan - Is the best dribbler and passer in the clipper organization hands down, now that livingston is injured. Decent outside shot. However, i still think its a long shot he makes the team. He seems even slower and more out of place than sam cassell on defense, and this is nott against top quality PG. With the emphasis that dunleavvy places on defense, i cant see him carrying two PGs who play none. He also doesnt have the speed to penetrate. However his basketball IQ and undertanding of angles, and how to play them really is amazing.
Diaz - Had a terribe shooting day, but still I think was solid. He has an explosive first step, and is also quick on defense. When he was running the point, he brought the ball up the court very quickly unlike our normal PGs. Right now i think he has set himself apart from Conroy and Jordan due to his all around game.
Gansey - I really wish I could see this guy play PG. Because he played exclusively the 2 in this game, yet outplayed all three of the aforementioned guys. It was quite surprising. He displayed just as good, if not better defense than Diaz, even coming up with a big rejection. He displayed better offense than diaz with some nice shots. His passing wasnt as good as jordan, but it was probably better than conroy today. Unfortunately the clippers do not have a SG on their summerleague roster, so we could only see him at SG. Id invite him to training camp to give him one more shot to beat the other guys off of the team.
Sy - Was REALLY impressed with this guy for being a "nobody" guy who isnt even a star in Europe. His length is ridiculous. Was the best blocker and rebounder on the team tonight, much better than kaman, thornton, etc. in that regard. His freakish length and athleticism got him a couple blocks and rebounds that 9 our of 10 guys couldnt get. Offensive game is below average, thus why hes not in the NBA. No chance to make the team, but he showed up some clipper rotation guys today.
Abukar - Also no chance to make the team, but for the second game in a row showed a nice shot for a big guy. the problem is other than the jump shot, he has zero offensive game, no post up game to speak of. At SDSU he didnt rebound well for a big guy, but in this game he went after it. Unless he tanks it in the next couple of games, I think another team should give him a shot at training camp this year. He could end up being a Scott Padgett outside threat specialist on some team.
Kaman - Got into position at will against Houston, and showed a lot of nice things. Last year we saw his passing the best it has ever been. This game too he showed some nice passing, Sabonis-like. If he can continue to improve that, teams are going to have more of a hard time double teamining him, or playing him so close. His rebounding was decent, balls really didnt bounce his way much. He had a couple of missed shots down low that rimmed in and out like last year, and also got ripped twice after being double teamed, same as last year. Nothing to be worried about though. Another thing he seemed to be working on which is a very good sign, is his outside shot which he hit a couple at. And also on one post move he actually tried dunking it. he didnt make it (was fouled), but the fact that he tried to dunk it shows something since so many of his shots last year he could have dunked, but tried these 2 foot hook shots that rimmed out.
Santiago - Wow. Forget what i said about me wanting him to make the squad. He makes aaron williams look like a superstar. Terrible terrible terrible. Im not sure if he had vaseline on his hands, but he made kwame brown look like he has velcro on his. Rebounds, passes, everything just boucned right off of his hands. Unknown as to the reasons.
Thornton - Had an atrocious first part of the game. Stepped it up in spurts. Interesting form on his jump shots, where he kind of crosses his legs. i wonder if the coaching staff will work on that. He stuck with a lot of plays a la Singleton, when some players who arent blessed with their athleticism would have given up on. Hes still very raw offensively. His deffensive is pretty good though, i dare say its better than maggette already. Being this is summer league, I have high expectations for thornton due to his age and experience, and role on this summerleague team. Since they are similar style players in dunleavvy system, anything less than singleton's effort last year in summer league will be a disspointment to me. If he wants to take any time away from maggette or thomas, hes going to have to show a lot more.
Davis - Davis too is another guy who i thought would be perfect in summerleague, since his being undersized and slow wouldnt be too much of a problem. In the first game he came through, but in this game, even amongst inferior post players again his size and speed defficiencies showed itself again. he had better play with more urgency, his contract isnt guaranteed yet.
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07-11-2007, 06:02 PM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
Why doesn't Abukar have any chance of making the team? I'd takle him in a heartbeat. He's shown he's got skills and even though we have crowded forward slots, he could still bring something to this team.
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07-11-2007, 06:15 PM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
I like to add that Kaman is a bust. He should be DOMINATING in the summer league. No excuses. What a joke
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07-11-2007, 06:45 PM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
The games show really choppy if you use OSX ( Quicktime ) try using windows media or if you havnt already get Parallels to run Win XP on OSX...
makes it much easier...
can we win a damn game ..we dont have to play all star level..but just a little cohesiveness would be nice...it looks like a bunch of dudes playing a pickup game out there...
Kaman took WAY too many shots...he needs to learn to play within the offense ..he isnt good at creating shots...I think he is perfect for us if we can get a fast penetrating guard...livy wasnt one ...franchise could be..so can jordan and diaz...
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07-11-2007, 09:34 PM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
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Anybody else out there running Mac OSx? I am and I was not able to watch a single second of the game. I guess NBA.com video just isn't set up for the Mac platforms. That competely sucks! Other than that, it looks there were a few encouraging performances last night.
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Download Flip4Mac. That should fix your problems. Don't remember the link, but I'm sure you can find it off of download.cnet.com.
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07-11-2007, 10:29 PM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
I almost guarentee that Diaz will make the team. Baylor knows there's no rush with Jordan and he's not afraid to stash players overseas. Diaz will make the team even if Baylor has to bring him in along with Jordan.
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07-12-2007, 12:02 AM
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Re: Summer League Game 2 vs Rockets
abukar has less than zero chance of making this team. Heck, even thornton shouldnt have been drafted due to the depth we have at PF/SF. But now that we have thornton, AND resigned korolev, theres for sure no chance abukar makes the team, because abukar is a one dimensional SF/PF. I for one love him since i love all SDSU guys, and i think there is a chance he makes it somewhwere. (today i was reading the news, and new orleans or some team signed someone ive never even heard of to a 2 year contract). If abukar had ANY ANY ANY kind of post game, i would haveliked to keep him over davis. Ive been following abukar since high school (his school is in my old schools conference), and even then he was used and abused in the post by even much younger post players. Hes never learned to play to his size. Hes like a euro big. His name should be abukavic.
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07-12-2007, 12:07 AM
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Kaman, imo, was dominating. You dont have to dominate on the box score to look above other players there. kaman got into position at will, almost as if no one was guarding him. Also really was intimidating on defense. Similar situation with guys like greg oden here in summer league. terrible box score, but you just watch him play and you can see that this guy is a cut above his peers. Thats what i was looking for with thornton. But i didnt see it. if i didnt know anything at all about who thornton was, i wouldnt have been able to say he was the lottery pick over say, bowman, or amara sy. However, i would have been able to say, look at that big goofy white guy number 79...hes abusing people down low.
Then you look at guys like jose juan barera, who is just tearing things up on the box score,but he doesnt really "stick out" that much to me...he just happense to be a speedy gonzalez a la john lucas last year. Singleton last year too stuck out for me.
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07-12-2007, 08:11 PM
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