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Showtime87 · 07-22-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hobojoe

LOL at Diable trying to say Knight can shoot, and immediately jumping to the "you've never seen him play" crap. Yes he can make jumpers occasionally, but so can Eric Snow and Jacque Vaughn. Fact is, they all suck at shooting for NBA guards.

Exactly. He won't be taking too many jumpers, his specialty is driving and dishing off to the finishers. Brand, Maggette and Kaman would all benefit greatly from having a true pass-first point guard on the floor like Knight.

hutcht02 · 07-22-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Showtime87

Exactly. He won't be taking too many jumpers, his specialty is driving and dishing off to the finishers. Brand, Maggette and Kaman would all benefit greatly from having a true pass-first point guard on the floor like Knight.

There's nothing wrong with signing Knight as long as we get Diaz to put in place of him when we need scoring.

**qross1fan** · 07-22-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Showtime87

Exactly. He won't be taking too many jumpers, his specialty is driving and dishing off to the finishers. Brand, Maggette and Kaman would all benefit greatly from having a true pass-first point guard on the floor like Knight.

Yes, Knight can do all that, but just like Livingston, defenses will be able to cheat off of Knight and get ready to double on Elton/Chris on the post. We need a PG who can knock down the midrange J to be able to keep defense's honest.

hutcht02 · 07-23-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by qross1fan

Yes, Knight can do all that, but just like Livingston, defenses will be able to cheat off of Knight and get ready to double on Elton/Chris on the post. We need a PG who can knock down the midrange J to be able to keep defense's honest.

Which is where Diaz fits very nicely

Showtime87 · 07-23-2007, 12:40 PM

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Yes, Knight can do all that, but just like Livingston, defenses will be able to cheat off of Knight and get ready to double on Elton/Chris on the post. We need a PG who can knock down the midrange J to be able to keep defense's honest.

Point taken, but there just aren't too many points out there who can regularly knock down the midrange J. I don't know, it's definitely a delicate balance, but I think with Cassell and his offense in the fold the Clipps could get by with having a guy like Knight play 15-20 mpg. Assuming Knight plays primarily during the early to middle stages of the game with Cassell coming in to close things out late. In my opinion Knight's playmaking attributes outweigh his offensive deficiencies.

DaFranchise · 07-23-2007, 05:28 PM

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Take what the wrong way? Nothing to take the wrong way, as you keep proving the point right, going from 'periods' to 'soccerboy'. I guess it'd be right in your world if I call you the poster with a man-crush on Critterton?

So, let's call soccer is crappy because ESPN decided to show Posh/Eva and Katie last night? How's it soccers fault that ESPN is retarded? One can say the same during Spurs games, as ESPN shows more then enough of Eva.

By the way, it was a nice game, debut or not. Galaxy were able to hang in with Chelsea long enough, although it should have been a blown out if Chelsea were in mid-season form, which they obviously weren't as they are barely on about day 11/12 of training camps? It was pretty weird to see the Galaxians stick in the game as long as they did, with how so/so they played. Can't wait to see the team in full effect, with Becks, healthy Albright, Donovan, Pavon, Cobi, Gray, Klein and Xavier.

Thats because nobody cares. Its all one big publicity stunt. Enough soccer! Go ahead and say what you want about my boy Critt. All I remember is that everyone was so concerned about his turnovers. He only averaged 1.6 TO in the summer league while posting up good all around numbers while Thornton was turning it over 4 times per game. Critt is the real deal and still a baby compared to old man Thornton.

DaFranchise · 07-23-2007, 05:30 PM

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Yep, but that's why we drafted Thornton right? oh wait... that move made no sense at all...

why did we draft this guy again? so we could trade maggette for some chump PG? blah, we suck.

Exactly, now we are hoping Brevin Knight chooses us. Man we screwed up this team big time. Do we even have an off season plan?

**Weasel** · 07-23-2007, 07:28 PM

Clippers need to hurray up and close the deal before the market gets even thiner. I don't mind Knight, he can really dish out assists even in limited minutes. If healthy he can be an asset. Boykins would be alright too but he tends be a black hole sometimes. Regardless the Clippers need to sign someone yesterday and move on, I don't see many trade options for the Clippers that are going to help.

hobojoe · 07-23-2007, 10:06 PM

Ridiculous how many of you are against the pick of Thornton because of team need. It's not like Al Thornton is a Center drafted in the lottery to play behind Yao Ming or pure PG drafted onto Utah to play behind Deron Williams or something ridiculous like that, he's a SF with versatility behind a good but not great player who will be a free agent in a year and has a history of not seeing eye to eye with the coach.

leidout · 07-23-2007, 11:10 PM

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Ridiculous how many of you are against the pick of Thornton because of team need. It's not like Al Thornton is a Center drafted in the lottery to play behind Yao Ming or pure PG drafted onto Utah to play behind Deron Williams or something ridiculous like that, he's a SF with versatility behind a good but not great player who will be a free agent in a year and has a history of not seeing eye to eye with the coach.

He's also behind 2 other SFs, and we've already got a SF that we drafted with a higher pick. We also had to get rid of a very good SF to make space for him.

Yet we have no reliable backup PG or SG or Center.

The best we've got are 2nd rounders who we're hoping play at about 200% of their ability. It was a dumb pick, hopefully you'll admit that when he's played about 5 minutes per game after 2 years.

**yamaneko** · 07-23-2007, 11:25 PM

Exactly. For thornton to get playing time drastic things have to change. The first thing has already happened with singleton being shown the door. The second thing has also happened, with maggette being the opening day starter. Despite these two big changes, hes still not really guaranteed big minuts. A trade or injury would be the only way at this point where he can get minutes

hutcht02 · 07-24-2007, 05:43 AM

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Exactly. For thornton to get playing time drastic things have to change. The first thing has already happened with singleton being shown the door. The second thing has also happened, with maggette being the opening day starter. Despite these two big changes, hes still not really guaranteed big minuts. A trade or injury would be the only way at this point where he can get minutes

He'll get big minutes by the end of the year. Dunleavy never gives rookies big minutes from the git-go, and that wouldn't change even if we would've drafted Greg Oden. But Thornton will be slated as the back-up SF before the year is over. Ross only played SF so he could start, but he's really not one, and Dunleavy perfers Thomas as a PF, so Thornton will get minutes right away, just not big ones quite yet.

hobojoe · 07-24-2007, 08:34 AM

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He's also behind 2 other SFs, and we've already got a SF that we drafted with a higher pick. We also had to get rid of a very good SF to make space for him.

Yet we have no reliable backup PG or SG or Center.

The best we've got are 2nd rounders who we're hoping play at about 200% of their ability. It was a dumb pick, hopefully you'll admit that when he's played about 5 minutes per game after 2 years.

He is not behind 2 other SFs, and Korolev is a bust who wouldn't be in the league if the Clippers hadn't re-signed him, he's irrelevant. You're insane if you think he's playing 5 minutes per game this season, next season or any season. Absolutely insane, and purely overrating the talent of the current squad and underrating Thornton's talent. We're not talking about a championship caliber team that just needs to retool and add some reserves, we're talking about a team that didn't make the playoffs. The Clippers need help, Thornton is probably the 3rd or 4th best player on the team already. You're absolutely insane if you think he's going to rot on the bench while the Clippers lose games.

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