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Old 10-27-2007, 10:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ROFL @ Steve Francis

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/5251305.html

Article talks about him being disgruntled now that it seems like he will get little playing time if any come the regular season.

But how many of us here raised high the bs flag when francis said he chose houston for the fit, and for playing time, etc.? Didnt take norstradomus to figure this one out. Houston already had the components they needed for Adleman's offense, plus about 25 PG's and SG's on the roster. Even without a few of those guys one had to wonder how a player like francis would fit into the scheme over there. Sure enough, what we said has come true.

I bet mobley is calling him up saying "i told you so." On our team, he would have been instant starter, and probably at LEAST 30 minutes a game.

Well on the "sour grapes" side, at least signing knight instead of him means we can get closer to the number 1 pick next year.

But dang am i laughing at francis now
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: ROFL @ Steve Francis

This doesn't really surprise me. Francis should have thought about this more, the Rockets were loaded with G's it made sense that that he wouldn't get the playing time. When he signed with them I assumed he was just trying to cash in and take a free ride on a good team, I guess not. Unfortunate for him that he made a bad decision. At least is close to home which may keep him content.
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Re: ROFL @ Steve Francis

Oh well, good for him is what I have to say . Sure, I would have liked him, but I'm content with Knight and Dickau backing up Sammy
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: ROFL @ Steve Francis

im content in that it will help us to be worse this year in order to get better next year.

But still, I would have loved to have signed francis to a few year deal. Next year we could have had once more chance at a playoff run with livingston and brand coming back, and hopefully a semi nice draft pick, we could have used the full MLE on someone of note...in addition to of course trading maggette at the trading deadline.

Francis made a fortune off of his bought out contract. if i was him id be happy to sit on the bench...it might actually extend his career a bit.
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: ROFL @ Steve Francis

hey first of all, thank god Francis is not on our team, i don't want any of those natural born losers anywhere close to the Clippers, especially not as a starting PG.
But on the other side, Sam Cassell is also a really bad idea for that spot, he is just taking away playing time that should be used on someone who can be our PG for the future(next 3-4 seasons), really, what's the point of Sam being our starter for this season? This is most definitely his last season as an NBA caliber, and we all know this season is pretty much over for us in terms of making some noise in the playoffs or even just the playoffs, so please get him out of here and get some guy who can be prepared for the next few years(Brands prime)....some championship contender could really use him, just find one before its too late
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: ROFL @ Steve Francis

natural born loser? Hes done things in his career only a handful of players have ever done. Hes a baller, especially for the meager few million he would have cost us. Much rather would have prefered to have him and kept either diaz or jordan, then have paid the same amount for knight and dickau. But then again, look at the rest of your post, get the guy who just went for like 20 8 and 8 in his last semi regular season game, so that we can develop....who?

Perhaps we could trade him at the deadline along with maggette for someone of note, or draft picks, but we cant trade him now for anyone of note.
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I think we've finally figured Francis out. He goes to a place that obviously is way overloaded at PG and then complains. hmm. Mayb e he wants to haul away a fat pay-check and sit on the bench to earn it. WOuldn't you think that's a pretty sweet gig? Especially when, if you come to L.A. and play for the Clippers, you'd actually have to do something and have pressure on you.

Man, what a role-model. He made a decision and he hasn't even lived with it 6monthes before complaining about it.
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Re: ROFL @ Steve Francis

yes, he is a proven loser who is not going anywhere with his game even though he has it
Cassell is done, forget about the numbers, he is DONE, its the matter of time before he gets injured and retires, for this season we definitely need a guy(or 2)who can be a potential starter for years to come,..who?...well i don't know, we need to try someone, someone between age of 24-30 who is realistically available, maybe Calderon, why not Claxton, Blake, or heck even Jaric is a better solution at this moment, anyone available please, this is the perfect season for those kind of experiments, lets use it...we don't have much to lose
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hey first of all, thank god Francis is not on our team, i don't want any of those natural born losers anywhere close to the Clippers, especially not as a starting PG.
But on the other side, Sam Cassell is also a really bad idea for that spot, he is just taking away playing time that should be used on someone who can be our PG for the future(next 3-4 seasons), really, what's the point of Sam being our starter for this season? This is most definitely his last season as an NBA caliber, and we all know this season is pretty much over for us in terms of making some noise in the playoffs or even just the playoffs, so please get him out of here and get some guy who can be prepared for the next few years(Brands prime)....some championship contender could really use him, just find one before its too late
ehh i dont know i think you guys will be decent enough to at least challenge for the 8 spot. I know the Brand injury screams 'Grizzlies!' but u guys have a lot more other talent on this team than Memphis had when Gasol went out. Plus I think Al Thornton can fill in pretty good and challenge somewhat for ROY so you got that going for you too.
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This is exactly why I didnt want Francis. Once a cancer always a cancer.
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Francis has been a cancer? I dispute that claim. Injury prone the last couple of years, most definitely. I just think he was dumb to sign with houston expecting playing time when they had traded for a PG, and had so many other pieces that fit into what adleman wants to do there.

Dumb, yes, cancer no. Starting here on our team he certainly would not have been complaining. Fracnis is for sure not a loser. Hes been on bad teams before, but if that means being a loser, then i guess brand is a loser?
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Francis has been a cancer? I dispute that claim. Injury prone the last couple of years, most definitely. I just think he was dumb to sign with houston expecting playing time when they had traded for a PG, and had so many other pieces that fit into what adleman wants to do there.

Dumb, yes, cancer no. Starting here on our team he certainly would not have been complaining. Fracnis is for sure not a loser. Hes been on bad teams before, but if that means being a loser, then i guess brand is a loser?
What is it with your infatuation with Francis? What's their to dispute? He has been a virus since the day he was drafted by the Grizz and cried his way out of Vancouver claiming it was Gods will for him not to play in Vancouver as well as some other bull crap. He is a problem and always will be one. There is no need to to go through the chronicles of Stevie Franchise. It speaks for itself. Thank god we didnt sign another old vet. I want this team to get young again.
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Infatuation? No, its no infatuation, its again based on facts. Hes not a cancer nor loser. Hes one of the better players to have played the game of late, its a shame his career isnt what it could have been due to injury. Wow. Amazing how a couple injury plagued years can make people forget this guy. For 6 years straight basically this guy averaged 20 points, 6 rebounds, and 6 assists. How many other current players can you name me that can boast that on their resume?

So he pulled a danny ferry, big deal, how does that affect him signing with us? If he would have signed with us, obviously it would have been because he wanted to, so i dont think we would have had to worry about him holding out.

The chronicles of steve francis do speak for themselves, when healthy hes an incredible player.

And what was the alternative? You say thank god we didnt sign another old vet. Well, i say we would have been MUCH better off signing him (29 years old) for the SAME price as signing Knight (32 years old), and Dickau (29 years old). No to mention, it WOULD have allowed us to keep a "young" player, be it Diaz or Jordan. Francis is easily better than knight and dickau combined in our offense. Would have allowed cassell to come off of the bench giving him even more of a chance to last the season. Would have meant we wouldnt have had a defensive liability, thus allowing us to start the best offensive players instead of having to worry about inserting patterson or ross to offset cassell all the time.

The only way i say "thank god we didnt sign" him is because if we would have signed him we would have done better this year, and probably taken us farther away from a top pick.
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