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shaliq · 01-11-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Free Arsenal

...Corey Maggete isn't considered a high character guy in my book, he may be someone I think of as a good person, but a high character person is someone who is willing to stick through it no matter what his situation is like Manu Ginobili, or Kevin Garnett. Hell, Garnett, no matter how frustrated he was never demanded a trade, in fact... he felt horrible about going to the Celtics despite getting to play with Ray Allen and Paul Pierce...

WHAT?! I stopped reading after that. Honestly, are you on crack?!
Corey played his butt off during the "Clipper Hell" years. And amid the poor shooting, building losses and hobbled players, Corey saw a glaring positive for the Clippers:

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"We are not out of it," he said. "We really aren't out of it and we still have some type of an opportunity to turn it around and try to get back on track. It's tough," Maggette said. "It doesn't get easy when you have Dallas and San Antonio and right after them, Phoenix-Phoenix. Those are the elite teams in the league. We've got to come out and play near perfect games for us to win these games. Anything is possible. We come ready to play and give our all, we have an opportunity against anyone."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...ck=1&cset=true

To tell you the truth, I really feel bad for Corey. He's a hard worker, and deserves to shine. And although Corey's not a great defender, he's a top tier NBA scorer, and those don't grow on trees. Steve Nash has won back-to-back MVPs and is the odd's on favorite for a third, and he can't play defense at all. Ever watch Carmelo Anthony? I can only assume that M.D. Sr. would bring 'Melo off the bench as well.
And just for the record, unlike Dunleavy, Corey handled that "bench-situation" professionally.

bootstrenf · 01-11-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Weasel

My guess is Cassell. Around the deadline I could imagine Cassell politely asking for a trade, I say politely because I think he likes the players but I am positive he hates the losing.

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Originally Posted by ElMarroAfamado

i think the Clippers owe it to Sam to grant his wishes if it is he would like to go somewhere else ....to win

"The King Of L.A"

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Originally Posted by PAIDNFULL23

Sam can do no wrong in my eyes. If the man wants to play for a contender, I have no problem with the Clippers trading him.

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Originally Posted by yamaneko

i figured cassell would have headed to boston if rondo wasnt getting the job done, but rondo has done well.

Not really sure if there are any borderline playoff or even championship level teams who really need a cassell at this point. Washington maybe?

i think cleveland would be the perfect situation for him...he can close out games and he can mentor daniel gibson...only question is, who would we get in return???

talk about a perfect situation...they need a savy point who can hit from outside and take some pressure off lebron in terms of handling the ball...cassell is a savy point who can hit from outside and is a good ball handler...would take some of the scoring load off lebron...and in the east, a lineup of:

cassell
pavo/hughes
lebron
gooden
zydrunas

has a very legitimate shot....and we all know sam has that "swagger"...sam would be throwing them 4th quarter daggers and showing that swagger...

ElMarroAfamado · 01-11-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bootstrenf

i think cleveland would be the perfect situation for him...he can close out games and he can mentor daniel gibson...only question is, who would we get in return???

talk about a perfect situation...they need a savy point who can hit from outside and take some pressure off lebron in terms of handling the ball...cassell is a savy point who can hit from outside and is a good ball handler...would take some of the scoring load off lebron...and in the east, a lineup of:

cassell
pavo/hughes
lebron
gooden
zydrunas

has a very legitimate shot....and we all know sam has that "swagger"...sam would be throwing them 4th quarter daggers and showing that swagger...

but there is no one with the Cavs i would want i mean for the most part everyone sucks and the only one i think has a shot is Damon Jones but he isnt very good anymore

bootstrenf · 01-11-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ElMarroAfamado

but there is no one with the Cavs i would want i mean for the most part everyone sucks and the only one i think has a shot is Damon Jones but he isnt very good anymore

yeah, true...this trade would basically be a favor to sam for the work he did for us...

maybe shannon brown and/or donyell marshall??? but i think donyell would be a bit expensive...

PAIDNFULL23 · 01-11-2008, 01:48 PM

If the Cavs wouldn't give us a 1st round pick, I'll probably take Shannon Brown, Ira Newble(expiring contract) and Cedric Simmons for Sam and Josh Powell

hutcht02 · 01-11-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PAIDNFULL23

If the Cavs wouldn't give us a 1st round pick, I'll probably take Shannon Brown, Ira Newble(expiring contract) and Cedric Simmons for Sam and Josh Powell

I second that. I've always liked Brown and I think Simmons could grow in Brand's abscence.

bootstrenf · 01-11-2008, 02:30 PM

but i would prefer a 1st round pick above all else...

**qross1fan** · 01-11-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PAIDNFULL23

If the Cavs wouldn't give us a 1st round pick, I'll probably take Shannon Brown, Ira Newble(expiring contract) and Cedric Simmons for Sam and Josh Powell

Switch Powell with Davis or Williams and I'd do it. I don't know about everyone else, but Josh is impressing me thus far. He's really going after the boards, is cutting nice, and is playing solid D. Early, he was horrid but that was lack of playing time, now that he's playing, I'm liking him to be our future 4th big man

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Free Arsenal · 01-11-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PAIDNFULL23

Free Arsenal, I got to disagree with you about the part about the Clippers needing more high character guys. i think our team has too many "nice guys" and not enough guys like KG, Chris Paul, Kobe and Baron, who's passion, toughness and love for the game is evident in every game they play. That's why I liked Ruben on the team because he brought some of that toughness and "edge" that I think the Clippers lack.

The high character guy thing is a little overrated. There are plenty of those guys on losing teams who never get talked about because they are losing and vice versa. In the last 4 or 5 years, the Pistons have arguably been the 2nd most consistently good team behind the Spurs and one of their leaders is Rasheed Wallace, and they didn't get over the hump until they traded for him.

Just some clarification here...

High character doesn't mean "nice guys." High character means "I'll do what I was paid to do and do it well..." in other words... they win, and they don't complain.

hutcht02 · 01-11-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Free Arsenal

Just some clarification here...

High character doesn't mean "nice guys." High character means "I'll do what I was paid to do and do it well..." in other words... they win, and they don't complain.

You're on the right track, but not exactly. High character doesn't care what they're being paid. They just do it. Like just because Quinton Ross doesn't make nearly as much as Elton Brand, but works just as hard every night. It's not the dollars, it's the paycheck. They're here, so they're going to work as hard as possible.

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