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01-22-2008, 10:30 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win
As much as I dislike Dunleavy, I WANT to see him remain this franchises coach. Why? Well, he had a big part in turning us around and he WANTS to win. Something I didn't see from Alvin Gentry. Plus, Dunleavy seems to understand the game more then Alvin. Only problem is, that he's in love with the matchup offense, in which he is the best in the league. If I recall correctly, I read a quote in which Popovich said that Mike is the best coach at finding and exploiting mismatches.
I won't mind seeing Baylor gone, and have anyone at all replace him. Bring in Isiah Thomas to be our Assistant GM this summer and have him in charge of drafting. The guy is awesome when it comes to drafting young talent, something we have never done well as a franchsie
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01-22-2008, 10:44 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win
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"Changes, like me being changed? Be my guest,'' Dunleavy said. "It would be the biggest mistake you've ever made, I think. But it's his team. He can do whatever he likes.''
It's that attitude that has turned this team against Dunleavy. I've said it earlier this year --- Dunleavy's days are numbered and he knows it.
I said it last year, after the team witnessed what Dunleavy was doing to Corey to get his son here --- that he had lost the respect of this team. I also said this year --- I didn't believe that Dunleavy could ever regain the respect of these players and that they would never play to win FOR HIM. (They played to win for their own pride as long as they could run, but then when continued changing the starting lineup, every single game, they gave up.)
DTS has gotten that message also and trust me --- now that he has tasted winning and wants to continue --- he is talking to someone other than Elgin about what to do next. TRANSLATION: DTS is already talking to his next GM/Coach --- Larry Brown, anyone?
Dunleavy has overstayed his welcome, just ask the Lakers and Portland.
KUDOS TO DTS. When he speaks to the media, he means it. REMEMBER when he told Jason Reid to get off writing about Corey leaving the Clippers because he was staying and would be re-signed --- where is Reid today? First, Elgin gets on Dumbleavy, now DTS. NEXT????
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01-22-2008, 10:53 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win
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Originally Posted by qross1fan
As much as I dislike Dunleavy, I WANT to see him remain this franchises coach. Why? Well, he had a big part in turning us around and he WANTS to win. Something I didn't see from Alvin Gentry. Plus, Dunleavy seems to understand the game more then Alvin. Only problem is, that he's in love with the matchup offense, in which he is the best in the league. If I recall correctly, I read a quote in which Popovich said that Mike is the best coach at finding and exploiting mismatches.
I won't mind seeing Baylor gone, and have anyone at all replace him. Bring in Isiah Thomas to be our Assistant GM this summer and have him in charge of drafting. The guy is awesome when it comes to drafting young talent, something we have never done well as a franchsie
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PLEASE 'Q', you're deeper than this!!!
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01-22-2008, 11:50 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...adlines-sports
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Dunleavy said he was "shocked" by Sterling's critical remarks, and while Sterling maintained the Clippers "absolutely" can still have a successful season and put it on Dunleavy, the coach said, "Where we are today as far as making the playoffs, nobody in their right mind would bet on that."
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Dunleavy thought he had a deal with Dallas in the summer to trade Corey Maggette, eligible for free agency after this season, for guard Jason Terry. But Sterling, who has said he will not meddle in player personnel but who has always professed a desire to keep Maggette in a Clippers uniform, refused to approve the trade.
Dunleavy also wanted to sign former San Antonio free-agent guard Beno Udrih, but the Clippers' bean counter, Andy Roeser, decided Udrih wasn't worth the money it would take to sign him.
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"I would only make deals to help our future -- anything else is suicide. Anything else and you become the New York Knicks. Now if you want to do that and take on big contracts and long-term deals to potentially hit a home run or get some kind of turnaround, that's not the direction I would go as a businessman or if I owned the team."
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Bah the Clippers office needs to learn how to air their dirty laundry out in private not in papers. The Clippers don't really need this right now, team moral is down and now the there are coach/gm and owner issues.
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01-23-2008, 12:14 AM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
I don't know about most of y'all, but I'm kind of enjoying this.
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01-23-2008, 12:37 AM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
But that quote by Dunleavy is comical. Who the hell does he think he is? Phil Jackson? Popovich? Red? Get the **** outta here. Dunleavy is an average coach. Not bad but not great either. He doesn't have the credentials to be speaking like he is. Last time I checked he hasn't won a championship and failed to do so with two teams that should have, the Lakers and the Blazers. He must thinks he some kind of messiah because he was the coach of the Clippers when we went to the semi finals two seasons ago. To me he should be thanking Sam because without him, there is no playoffs or a contract extension for him. And he needs to stop putting blame on others and always reflecting it from himself, true leaders don't do that.
And to anyone that thinks DTS speaking out is about this season's stuggles, its not, he is still pissed off about not making it to the playoffs last year when he finally went out and spent money.
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01-23-2008, 10:01 AM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
Great stuff. Sterling in the past shouldnt be blamed for our loosing woes, he shouldnt blame himself either. if it wasnt for him, we would have wasted millions on losers that wanted big money. But now i do think sterling is messing things up. He has given in to contracts that he probably shouldnt have, and nixed trades for maggette that he has no business nixing.
Dunleavvy and baylor deserve blame for some stupid draft day moves (trading to get livingston, promising korolev, drafting thornton, not to mention our disasterous 2nd round picks), and for giving the untouchable label to livingston which lost us out on guys like pierce, iverson, etc.
Sterling just needs to give up on his obsession with maggette, needs to bite the bullet and clear out dunleavvy and baylor and start again.
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01-23-2008, 12:09 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
Sterling Blocked Maggette Trade
From ESPN Insider,
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Mike Dunleavy thought he had a deal with Dallas in the summer to trade Corey Maggette, eligible for free agency after this season, for guard Jason Terry. But Donald Sterling, who has said he will not meddle in player personnel but who has always professed a desire to keep Maggette in a Clippers uniform, refused to approve the trade.
Dunleavy also wanted to sign former San Antonio free-agent guard Beno Udrih, but the Clippers' bean counter, Andy Roeser, decided Udrih wasn't worth the money it would take to sign him.
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Was Andy Roeser on crack? Udrih would be a excellent free agent signing.
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01-23-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win
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Maybe it's just all the years of frustration talking, but I'm sorry, I cannot get behind Donald Sterling. To me his comments are empty, because for many years he did NOTHING to improve this team and showed absolutely zero desire to win. Maybe it's because I lived through all of that that I'm still so bitter. Also note that Sterling did not commit to spending money until the team moved into Staples, which says to me that he only did so because of the increased revenue and not because he had a sudden desire to become a winner. He'll fire Dunleavy if that's what it takes to win huh? Okay then, who would be able to win with this franchise RIGHT NOW? You could put Red Holzman, Red Auerbach and Pat Riley on the Clippers coaching staff and they would still have a losing record. Look at Larry Brown with the pathetic Knicks, or Riley's current situation with the Heat, a head coach can only do so much. It's not Dunleavy's fault, and certainly not Baylor's in my opinion. It also strikes me as odd that so many people on this board were saying that they expected this season to be a bust without Elton and Livingston, now all of the sudden you expected more? At best, I had hope they would be able to tread water and hover around .500 until Brand returned, and maybe if all of the additional injuries to Cassell, Maggette, Mobley and others had not occurred they might have been able to. But how in the world could anyone expect better results considering the current state of this roster? This I just do not understand. Donald Sterling can be pi**ed off all he wants, but I feel absolutely zero sympathy for him. I can't forget about all of those years he let this team languish and remain the constant doormat of every other NBA franchise. That is what I'm talking about.
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Great post!
I think Maggette will be dealt close to the trade deadline. He could really help a playoff team make a run for a championship.
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01-23-2008, 04:10 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
maggette for jason terry straight up? i would have done it in a heartbeat. maggette is such a horrid shooter.
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01-23-2008, 04:28 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
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maggette for jason terry straight up? i would have done it in a heartbeat. maggette is such a horrid shooter.
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I wouldn't have. Jason Terry makes too much and I don't see him as a Dunleavy type players. I am glad the front office nixed that offer.
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01-23-2008, 04:28 PM
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Re: Clippers owner Sterling puts it on Dunleavy to win, Dunleavy fires back
Sterling was fine before. Clippers just always sucked. No free agent wanted to come here, and people always got on sterlings case for not resigning talent, and letting them go for nothing. Well, 95% of those guys, had we resigned them would have made us a worse team/organization in hindsight, so i dont blame him for the loosing years.
What turned things around was the new Collective bargaining agreement with the salary cap structure. Now guys didnt have the options they had before, meaning some would eventually have to pick the clippers. I have nothing but respect for sterling the last 15 years and the decisions he made until just a couple of years ago when he started getting loose with his pocketbook, and allowed other bad decisions to take place. He should have forced the livingston for pierce or iverson trade. He should have allowed the terry for maggette deal, should have done so many things the last few years its not even funny.
Dunleavvy is an arrogant idiot. Doing the best job possible? Good greif. Just take one look at the clipper offense and his rotations, and a high school coach could see the best job is not being done. Maybe he means, the only way were going to improve is through a high draft pick, and so really hes doing a terrible job on purpose in order to get that pick. Other than that, i dont think theres another coach in the league right now who could be doing a worse job.
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01-23-2008, 04:32 PM
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